what?

yeah even then

we can do that in LEO

low earth orbit

@Revan how the fuck is it going to fall out of LEO

when i go from KSP to SE it makes me depressed

because no orbital mechanics :(

@Revan no.

@Grenade123 i'm aware but it's minimal

the ISS is very low

so it needs more of a push

much heavier objects are a lot more prectible because of their mass

their orbits will degrade a slower

but who cares

if you go into a 100km higher orbit

you won't have to deal with anything

stop.

use your brain

the ISS is in a position where the cost in fuel of pushing it is less than what it would cost for every resuply mission to get to that higher orbit

if you put it on the moon it would cost many times more

@Dionara you can't have a self sustaining colony on the moon

mars has water, minerals, energy, an atmosphere to keep you from getting cancer

a lot less than earth, but infinitely more than the moon

probably

the surface is covered in perchlorates

which have been known to be toxic on earth

the moon has rocks that have to be melted to filter out the minerals, little to no chemical energy, no water, and a whole lot of depression

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_the_Moon

the surface is basically unform, and completely useless for growing things

Oof Fortran

@Revan Kotlin and groovy are far from "Java with nicer syntax"

C++ isnt a superset of C though

Not at all

C++ doesn't allow most of the pointer casts involved with idiomatic C

No naming in struct initializers

You have to extern "C" all C headers to make sure symbols aren't mangled

@Revan it doesn't, under the spec you can only up/downcast pointers

The compilers let you deviate from the specs but that doesn't really count as a language feature

i made a diagram awhile ago one sec

https://i.imgur.com/gTY9wYv.jpg

@GingaBomber let me guess, unity? 😢

i mean i'm on a 3 person team and unity was just completely awful

VR specifically

we dont even use the unreal source control features

unity is just so boilerplate heavy

among other things

Unity's level editor is better

unreal has an excessive amount of build options

but unity's UI system is absolute garbage (world space UIs are buggy as hell too),
shader development requires hopping to/from an external program and is a real pain in the ass
the animation system is inferior for basically every use case
building lightmaps is REALLY slow in unity, has very little tuning options, and looks inferior if you compare a well tuned unity scene with one from UE
unreal comes with automatic LODs, and has a pretty nice system of managing LODs directly from the static mesh
unreal comes with many options for generating collision meshes

i can go on

there are types of shaders unity straight up doesn't support

so it is actually severely limiting depending on what you are trying to do

i mean

literally the only thing unity has better than UE is docs and their level editor is slightly easier to use

everything else is just a pita

sounds kinda like mongodb 🤔

one sec

unreal's particle systems are 10/10

blueprints and C++

blueprints can be used for basically everything

also there are many scripting languages ported to UE

including C#

i'm not sure how comprehensive they are since i'm fine with C++

well kinda

the way UE is set up is kinda like Qt

Qt has their own preprocessor which makes using it a bit easier

CLion is good

Qt Creator if you want something lighter

@Grenade123 it is, VC++ has GCed reference types

`void foo(std::string^ bar);`

oof

VS has always sucked hard when it comes to C++

they don't fully support c++14 yet iirc

@Dionara <#398973785426100234>

💢

@.B so you use Java instead and get 10fps?

oh god my eyes

people have actually made game engines in Swing

that's awful

@.B security backend? 🤔

payday 2 is a meme of a game

day 1 cheats

because they exposed all of lua's symbols which prevented LTO

and even to this day it's trivial to hook the vm, they don't even bother protecting it

C is not versatile

@iceCalt Link Time Optimization

basically after your executable is glued together it performs additional optimizations such as inlining and tweaking register allocation

we must create the timcast lore

in the omniverse we have
tim, the protagonist
stoned tim, he's just stoned lol
and the evil borther with no beanie

@Howler4695 we talked about it somewhat earlier today in <#399319255386161152>

as for it catching on, maybe

it's hard for people that believe in individuality to make a collective push

the issue is you get less leverage when you can't speak for a large group

sargon usually makes arguments for individual issues instead of assuming a blanket set of values over a large group

wow. duckduckgo needs some work

```Including results for redtube.
Search only for "dtube.com"?```

hah

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dtube.com

check for yourself

yeah not sure why it corrected that

oh jees, their github is bare