idk why people started to define their identity on the gender category

your identity is your identity

it is not gender

also, your identity isn't defined uniquely by sexual characteristics

trying to define your "sexual characteristics", both physical and phychological all into a category is, well.. retarded

it will destroy the word "gender", and that's it

but if we agree it is stupid, why are you going along with it?

@JadenFrostwolf we weren't all here entertaining the idea, some ppl here really think we should redefine gender

@Grenade123 I agree, isn't that what we just did? =p

@JadenFrostwolf I've heard a lot of people saying Zelda should be genderbent into a girl 😏

coz all video games have males in the titles

rightttttt?

that's the point, they thought Link was Zelda. They didn't even know the franchise 😂

one redefinition of a word that "triggers" me is the word "gamer"

you play sudoku or candy crush? YOU'R A GAMER

western games are kinda dead 🤔

I kinda told you why "gender" was used

because in most languages "sex" is also a verb of the act

so to avoid confusion, "gender" was another way of refering to it that was clear to understand what you're asking

yes, I believe that is the main reason

in my native language the same happens

in spanish too

in french too

I could do some research on it tbh

we are talking about the west

if you go to asian countries, there's not even pronouns

kanjis are gendered

let's not dig a bigger hole into this

what feminists are trying to do, removing gendered names of things can't even be done in most asian languages

portuguese too

yes there are

asking for the "sex" is also informal

asking "gender" is considered the formal way of asking it

this is language, not science

most languages follow irrational evolutions

aren't you contributing to my point? if you say "sex" you assume the act, if you say "gender" you assume the binary definition which can _also_ be defined as "sex"

yes.. so?

"socially constructed" says nothing

everything is socially constructed

the other way around

if gender becomes volatile and not useful, people will just use "sex"

if enough SJW use racism as "prejudice+power" should we assume the definition changed too?

ik

xD

and colorism is exactly what the initial racism was

which is ironic

and invalidates their redifinition of racism

or, you say gender = sex

and it's done

it holded up until today

boats?

wut?

so?

not all languages have gendered nouns

the boat has no sexual characteristics, sorry

you can't have it both ways

boats don't have any

btw, afaik boat is male in spanish

barco

or bote

la lancha is female

you basically destroyed your own argument though, genders in languages are binary

there's male, female and neutral

you were arguing "gender =/= sex"

you lost me, idk what you meant

continuing with this thread of discussion.. so should languages invent 35 new ways to gender nouns?

would be amusing to see them try

gender always existed as another synonim to sex

we didn't agree on that?

boat is an it

not in all languages

rule34 applies

here, have a pic of Titanic

funny stuff aside

some lanmguages have gendered words

others don't

what's your point on the boats?

they have gendered words, but only male, female and neutral

gendered words are "sexed" words

not necessarily

if a man has no dick, he is still a man

😂

lol

plz continue

you have my attention

personification is a thing, you can also give emotions to innanimate objects, that doesn't mean those are "real"

so, what's your gender?

idk how anyone can deny that

gender/sex always existed

trust me, people could see the dicks

and deviants usually didn't survive for long, people didn't care

personification isn't a thing in all languages, that boat argument is really weak

specially given that gender is binary in most languages

you did

I quoted you last time on that

followed by asking what categories would you define

that were concrete

>why should it still mean sex
because it always did 😏

we are back at the start. What would you define "gender" that would be useful for society?