Christ what the fuck @Drake

I thought it was gonna be a dem sweep for a bit but idk anymore honestly

@Drake actually you’d be surprised. It’s more limited than we assume

@Señor Bello don’t have to be religious to be interested in theology and the Bible

are slavs allowed on this server

boomers =! “back in my day”

Boomers day is this day

@Señor Bello I mean in the US at least right wing religious people are a huge voting block

are there thinking humans out there dumb enough to honestly believe the Russian collusion narrative

@RemoteBeef092 you think anime is inherently pedophillic? It’s associated but I don’t think it has to be

Like cowboy bebop or whatever

it’s an “anti fascist” group. They’re hard left associated and tend to have some violent protest methods <@!297915529094627329>

I’m willing to listen to Christians and fundies a lot but creationism really trips me up

@Señor Bello I don’t think it’s legitimate to say that hell and religion was purely a tool like that

@TradChad depends how you define god

You’re not wrong but I don’t think it was like some shady Illuminati thing, and I don’t think “religion is a bad explanation for natural phenomena” is good either. Almost all religion has a central aspect which is not concerned with explaining natural phenomena or like imposing morality @Señor Bello

@TradChad I’m interested in how you can say that gods existence as you define it is “undeniable” btw. Unless I’m just misinterpreting something

@TradChad I’m sorry, I don’t see what you mean. Is that to say god is important to your worldview?

Antifa and blm and stuff is obviously awful but I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt that they probably have some government plants in there intentionally making the protests more violent than they have to be

though actually antifa is like explicitly violent

Daily reminder that that means jack shit and you shouldn’t trust the fucking fbi

Make your own judgement

they’re obviously awful but like since when do thinking humans trust the fbi

@Zombeaver im not saying that. But remember that time the fbi tried to get Martin Luther king to kill himself

For cheating on his wife

@Zombeaver it’s p funny yeah but I’m just saying that we should really not be trusting intelligence agencies just because they sometimes agree with us

fair

Does Minecraft still get updated

Like everyone on earth bought the fucking game already how could they make any money

lol yeah MC was what first made me want a good gaming computer as a kid

@Zombeaver I’m 19 and wanted it in middle school. I think that’s fair to say

@🚂Quatroking🚂 (🇳🇱) depends how you define kid, then

So no I’m not still a kid

I can vote now 🤧

@Zombeaver I mean basically anywhere on the internet you’re going to find an overrepresentation of younger demographics

1.8 update was so hyped I remember ☺️

Or was it 0.8

@Zombeaver I’m not accusing you of that I’m just saying this isn’t too different than any given place on the internet

Maybe so then

I really hate his voice

minecrafts a cultural cornerstone 😩

He’s an admin on the forums apparently

I believe it

fuck

Hope this doesn’t go too big or they’ll end up getting killed by some maniac

@Drake ehh

They bash conservatives but just don’t report on left wingers lol

Bash conservatives sometimes

I meant “the media”

And usually they bash conservatives on silly like non policy related way

rarely does the media go actually hard on conservatives for anything substance related

remember when that fucking cuck van jones or whatever cried about the beauty of our nukes

Of our weapons

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] im not sure I buy that it’s hyper organized at the top tbh. I think it’s like a lot of often obvious incentives and occasional weird shadowy deals

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] I think they’re incestuous and weird, and I agree that it’s very cancerous and difficult to fix, but I just don’t think it’s a bunch of people smoking in a back room and deciding the fate of the world

Like obviously the feds are awful but they’re not a infinitely powerful monolith

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] but those deals we tend to know about. Like “I’ll give you a million for your campaign, and you play ball.” I don’t think it’s much more than that, or at least I’m not convinced

Rothschilds or whatever

Are rothschilds a meme

Oh

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] anyways what I guess I’m trying to say is I agree with a lot of your diagnosis and the symptoms you’ve identified but I think people at all levels are less competent and more self interested than we think

it’s shadowy, but not Illuminati shadowy

New Zealanders seem like they might be cucks. I’m not Australian so idk but they sort of seem like Australia’s canada

Australians just seem like madlads and New Zealanders seem comparatively cucked

and yes, I do drink soylent

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] that’s what I’m saying, yeah. Although I don’t think the “Trump v old order” thing is still all that applicable

I’m not sure there’s that many people who killing would mean stopping the government

@agag I mean permanently

I quite like how Bernie and trump has pushed a lot of the narrative in the dem side towards getting money out of politics

trump has way dropped the ball on that tbh

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] yeah but something is better than basically nothing

I also am not entirely against lobbying

It just seems like a joke to claim that like “oh I took a million dollars from them but don’t worry I won’t do any special favors”

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] I tend to agree with that last part but there’s obviously secrets which are of importance to keep hidden.

like say where our nukes are or whatever

anyways I think there’s a lot of ideal worlds out there and ideal solutions to think of. but I like to think about politics pragmatically. In part because it’s just not all that useful to “wait for the revolution” and in part because I’m not even sure where it would be best to move on to

It’s all American 🇺🇸

But that wasn’t what I meant

Like how likely, honest to god do you think changing super radically from our current system is right now. How likely do you think the mechanism towards your ideal system will remain uncorrupted. And most importantly how likely do you think it is that you’re right. that if you do get your ideal system it will actually be better and not worse. That’s why I like to stay somewhat around the common Overton window

<@141430331717844992> the more libertarian side of me dislikes the idea of a government approved marriage entirely

Not that I dislike marriage

I think monogamy is great

<@141430331717844992> I think it’s true that there’s a powerful need for a strong family unit. It might be one of the most important things like in any advanced society. But I’m just a little unconvinced that the government should be the one to handle it

@John Rebuttal nice name

Also I do think that like a non-religious, non-government marriage alternative is important and necessary, at least the way we’re currently going right now

is Vedic the guys who put butter in people’s eyes if they’re dry

<@141430331717844992> I think it makes historical and cultural sense for it to be religious associated but it’s not strictly necessary. There could be a secular and non-government ceremony of some sort that affirms a decision to make a life bond. In fact, I think we need one

@TradChad my problem with this type of thing is that it’s some pretty serious hubris? to assume you’ve correctly interpreted almost any part of the Bible. It’s not a simple book

<@141430331717844992> yeah that’s what I mean. I just mean like a secular ceremony becoming culturally dominant is important for the way our society is changing

@TradChad but isn’t it then hubris to assume their interpretations are correct and not another groups

Like it’s better than private of course

but it’s still the same problem

@agag which church x2

that’s sort of dishonest questioning, like leading questions @Thule-Gesellschaft [☩]

Oh. Uh carry on then

so god would punish dishonest actors within a given church and not rubes who happened to get swept in?

No?

No??? @Thule-Gesellschaft [☩]

Bro read what he’s saying