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Every election cycle, the govt debt and surplus level is brought up, as a measure of whether the govt is effective or not.

Both parties though tend to be consistent in policy to reduce the debt to gdp though.

Not the best site, but allows you to see it roughly.

It is hard to stop policy set by the reserve bank and political parties though.

You'd have to change minds in a big way.

Hope you aren't getting frustrated too much talking with me. 😄

I am not really saying more than what I've been brought up to think.

Literally, ask anyone from NZ what they think about government budget deficits and debt to gdp, and they'll view it as a metric of poor government policy.

Well, if you look at govt policy...there was a massive drive to lower the gdp to debt ratio, create a budget surplus, and have low inflation.

From the 1980s-1990s at least.

NZ mostly survives through exports and tourism, and a lot of foreign investment, which is a curse and a blessing.

Mostly the population grows through immigration.

NZ is kinda the reverse of the US in that we spend way too little, even when we know where money needs to go.

NZ govts have a heavy fear of inflation and government debt.

Well, at least from what I see the US is spending the right amounts in education, healthcare, and on the military, but not putting it in the right places or letting it be wasted.

Realistically, the amount the US is spending, it should be getting way better outcomes in education at least...yet school systems are failing, and the response seems to be 'we need more money'.

There are lot of high admin costs, yet teachers are low paid compared to the job they do, and classrooms are without the resources they need.

At least from the way I see it, both major parties have no clue over what direction to go in.

I disagree with both parties, and have pretty much given up on trying to understand where they are going.

Well, on a real basic level, I think the tax system needs work.

The way the US system is set up, tax avoidance is a major issue, and it seems to hurt the poor and middle class.

And the tax avoidance is kinda built-in, and it isn't a bug and rather a feature.

You'd have to figure out how to tax higher incomes.

I've heard some floated ideas, like taxing shares,etc, as well as a flat tax.

I can't say whether it is right or wrong: Though in NZ, it has a high sales tax, coupled with a flat tax system based upon income level, with no exemptions for charities as much as in the US.

My folks kinda feel they are paying more tax here than in NZ.

They paid the top tax rate in NZ, which was 33%

NZ has no payroll taxes,etc, just a general income tax.

Also families in NZ can receive tax credits, though never really looked into how that works.

Yep. NZ has no capital gains taxes, though they have been floated.

Mostly to deal with the housing issue.

The govt recently made some restrictions on foreign property ownership.

Which isn't obviously going to fix the problem, and is more of 'we are doing something' message.

It was pushed in the media as "government bans property sales to foreigners", but ironically it doesn't really do that, as those that buy property in New Zealand usually go through broker agencies whose agents are already citizens or residents.

There are few (if any) actual direct buyers who come straight off a plane, and ask to buy property.

Well, NZ is relying on immigration unfortunately.

Also you can get into NZ through an investor residency system.

Meaning if you buy property/invest in companies, you can get in as a long-term resident.

If you visit NZ, the locals aren't doing as well as recent immigrants who come in with assets in hand, and buy up property.

Auckland (the major city) is full of wealthy Chinese, who got in on the residency visa.

The general feeling of folks that live there is that NZ is great for those that come in with money and skills, but sucks for those who were born in bred there or for migrants from the islands.

NZ has the problem as well that it has a low population that can only support so many jobs in certain sectors.

Well, NZ is basically equal opportunity, in that it takes investment from anywhere without seriously looking into the implications.

The Chinese government is heavy into soft power in NZ.

It gave a preferential free trade agreement it wouldn't give other countries.

Which has a good and bad side.

Kinda NZ was meant to be a showpiece for China, or at least thats how China has portrayed it aka as the 'first free trade deal with a developed economy'.

The problem with that is Huawei wants to get a stake in NZ's critical infrastructure.

And NZ is in Five Eyes.

So it would create a potential backdoor into Five Eyes from NZ.

There is a similar issue in the UK as well.

Kinda if any five eyes country lets in Huawei, they need to be removed from Five Eyes, as that hurts US security.

Well, right now, the west is just way too naïve on China.

Probably.

I heavily disagree with the way the west has dealt with China.

It believed it could just control China.

The whole nonsense position was that China would democratize as a result of economically liberal policy.

Well their fallback was they thought it was worth the risk and that they could control China as in the past.

Though the public face of economic and foreign policy argued that China would become more free as it opened it's economy and gradually move more towards more political freedom.

The better policy was continuing to keep China out of critical parts of the US economy, but instead the US let them into areas where they could steal US intellectual property, and build up enough wealth to become an even greater military threat.

It isn't entirely wrong when it thinks it can bully the US.

What does porn have to do with politics?

Okay...that's a discussion then. Ignored you because you asked whether a pdf was porn. 😛

It clearly wasn't.

I don't open links on discord. 😛

I might dare to risk news sites, but that's about it.

So Onision got banned from patreon, how soon till he gets banned from YouTube?

Asian girls are clean.

The only Asian guy I dated was fake as fuck. Date lasted 5 mins.

@Pelth I used to date people just because I was bored and wanted attention...I didn't seriously think I'd find someone till I did.

Nah. Guy and goes to gym.

There is a whole fetish in the gay community about finding an uber fat guy and supposedly getting flattened by them.

Probably the most gross site is coiled fist: https://www.coiledfist.org/

```You can't modify your own Rep... Silly``` That's why you promise everyone who reps you with money, then renege just like RL politicians.

2019-11-27 22:56:33 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

@TheBritishGamer ❤🔑 (Meh) I don't like either side, for different reasons.

2019-11-27 22:58:32 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

The Remain and Brexit camps are in their own kinds of denial.

2019-11-27 23:01:08 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

Remain lost the vote, yet they have no plan beyond 'stop Brexit', and think that a referendum that couldn't change the result somehow would. Ultimately their best bet is not blocking Brexit but campaigning to re-enter the EU.

2019-11-27 23:02:54 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

Brexit camp don't seem to get the economic reality that to be independent on the world stage requires an end to trade protectionism, meaning an end to agricultural subsidies, and major changes to the NHS to satisfy trade partners.

2019-11-27 23:06:22 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

The UK really aren't prepared to leave the EU as they haven't thought things through, so the first year post Brexit will be hell for the UK. After that, who knows...

2019-11-27 23:08:33 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

I know that India, the US, Australia & NZ, and all the others that the UK is looking to trade with will require agricultural and pharmaceutical access in any free trade deal.

2019-11-28 02:03:05 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #trump]  

@Deleted User Why would Trump post that...we need the whole of Twitter to be fact-checked.

2019-11-28 02:03:58 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #trump]  

Washington Post needs to put all it's efforts into fact-checking every single post any conservative politician has ever written on Twitter.

2019-11-29 21:03:01 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

```The commercially funded public-service broadcaster invited leaders of all Britain’s main political parties to take part in the debate before Dec. 12’s election, but both Johnson and the leader of the Brexit Party, Nigel Farage, declined to attend.```

2019-11-29 21:03:04 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

Lol.

2019-11-29 21:04:05 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

So Nigel and Boris refused to debate the SNP and Corbyn basically.

2019-11-29 21:05:44 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

Now they are claiming that it is 'political bias' because they couldn't veto the debate going ahead anyway. 🙃

2019-11-29 21:09:51 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

```Between 2000 and 2004, Wyatt had an affair with the then editor of The Spectator and Conservative MP Boris Johnson.[8] Johnson had promised to leave his wife, and the affair had resulted in a miscarriage and a terminated pregnancy.[9] When her mother found out about the affair, she discussed it with the press.[4][8] He was fired from his shadow cabinet post by Michael Howard for lying about the affair, as he had initially categorically denied it.[8][10]```

2019-11-29 21:10:03 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

As for abortion...

2019-11-29 21:12:42 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #brexit]  

```Speaking from the mansion in St John’s Wood, north London, where she lives with her daughter, Lady Verushka Wyatt disclosed that her daughter had an abortion last month as a result of an affair with Johnson, who is married with four children.```

2019-11-29 21:18:21 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #trump]  

Erdogan came to be, as the EU and US appeased him, and now he is a threat on the world stage that no one can be rid of.

2019-11-29 21:19:22 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #trump]  

Couldn't have come about without Bush Jr, Obama, and Merkel pretending that Turkey was a 'model Islamic democracy'.

Dog...a delicacy in China.

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