bernie sanders calling himself a socialist -> wrong

he does not want a planned economy

he keeps talking about northern europe

those are NOT socialist

they rejected the term

with the exception of sweden, northern europe is great

iceland, norway, finland, denmark

they are relatively nationalistic

not entirely free

almost no country has a completely free market

are you capable of understanding the difference between socialism and social democracy?

some public ownership makes sense

natural monopolies

because there are things where competition is impossible

@The Librarian railway system

gov ownership, not collective

nationalized

collective is impossible

*sigh*

americans

look at europe, in austria the rails are owned by the gov

in germany its private

in germany its expensive as hell because they can raise costs, theres no competition on THEIR rails

you cannot just build more rails

next to the others

thats bullshit

incapable of understanding the difference between socdem and demsoc

*sigh*

look, in germany theres different leftie parties

SPD = socdem (left capitalist)
green = environment and social justice
left = demsoc/socialist/commie

@The Librarian no, wrong

social democracy = left leaning capitalist system with social security, public healthcare (and other things) welfare state and economic regulation

*sigh*

mixed economy is not socialism you retard

im not talking about demsoc tho

what are you addressing?

socialism never works

that does not mean we need to go full ancap

duh

its 5 am here

lol

hes talking about collective ownership?

i only know about the healthcare ideas

which work in europe

except the countries where theres lots of immigration

germany and UK have lots of issues with that

immigration putting pressure on public healthcare

including absolute economic freedom?

too much, or not enough?

yes there is

others working together against you

see alex jones getting banned from all kinds of public platforms

corporations working together to destroy an individual, should not be allowed

first they came for alex jones, and i didnt speak up cuz im not alex jones

*thonks*

should a public platform be allowed to remove non-criminal content from their page because of their opinion?

should these corporations be allowed to blacklist non criminal users?

should banks be allowed to kick out people for something unrelated to their business?

should a grocery store be allowed to kick you out because you said something stupid online?

how far does it go?

are they allowed to?

should they be allowed to?

you realize that the free market can build a system similar to china?

exactly

corporations stepping on an individuals rights then saying "hurrdurr private"

thats where capitalism is flawed

which ones closer to access to a bank?

theres a guy in germany/austria called martin sellner, a rightwing activist, hes been kicked out of a ton of banks

hes kinda far right but not a nazi

what about a bank?

a bank account is necessary for many things

going into the future, social media accounts will be more and more necessary

what if they group up? @The Librarian

@Deleted User sellner is a better example, but you dont know him

is it if far lefties threaten them?

they already do that here @Syenite

in the case of sellner

my point is that they can group up and destroy someone

true that...

especially the EZB

yup...

to both of you

+ african birth rates

european birthrates are between 1 and 3

african are up to 10

gotta educate africans first

lots of them straight up reject birth control cuz they think it violates masculinity

how does one even fix a culture from the outside...

>literally saying china better than US now

LOL

tfw immigration control is worse than genocide

thats good

@The Librarian CHINA NUMBER ONE

+5 social score

i know lol

but the other person was

ugh

@The Librarian dont you realize that immigration control is evil? free movement of people is totally not feeding the neoliberal elites, its about justice and not being racist, duh

asian people usually are very nice

@The Librarian free movement of people completely dissolves the nation and culture