exactly

plus if china is disintegrated, north korea should be next

chinese socialism is not marxist

its very pragmatic

saudi should have been next in line, but at most 1 billion people will defend that monarchy to death, because their holy sites exist there

they have fed their people Marxist ideals then censored them when they enforced them.

their whole country isnt, but its starting to pop up.

ALL forms of socialism and communism should be fucking destroyed and rejected at every turn.

yo come to india please

even though our socialism part is disintergrating, so we're good on that

All those ideals have ever done is cause death, destruction and decay.

but along with that, our secularism is dying too, and our old issues are still big, so fuck indian society, except its festivals, they're dope

can't wait for this simulation to end

lots of people think socdem/soclib is socialism, very silly

It is a sub-root of socialism

My autistic little brother is screaming in his sleep saying "MARIO!!! MARIO I LOVE YOU!!"

ooo makes sense

I'm losing my shit

yeah i thought soc dem is neat, not straight up socialism

bernie sanders calling himself a socialist -> wrong

he does not want a planned economy

he keeps talking about northern europe

those are NOT socialist

Any form of socialism I reject.

they rejected the term

with the exception of sweden, northern europe is great

iceland, norway, finland, denmark

they are relatively nationalistic

they have a free-market system with heavy social programs

not entirely free

almost no country has a completely free market

Any form of socialism is a cancer that needs to be dragged through the mud, only difference between Democratic Socialists and Socialists is the smiple fact that they reject the Stalinist Political System and Soviet Economic State that was present during WWII.

@Shattered if you are referring to a global scale then you are correct, but at a local scale, those countries do conduct in a free-market system

Nobody is going to "Collectively Own" Anything that I own.

Yeah Capitalism has its flaws, but replacing private ownership with a collective ownership is retarded and would never work.

People like Bernie Sanders need to get their head out of their asses, we will NEVER go to a collective ownership system with Democratic Socialism.

are you capable of understanding the difference between socialism and social democracy?

Yes.

I understand what they are perfectly.

some public ownership makes sense

For what?