@Flash @Ginnungagap move to either <#587015719141507102> or <#587028275918929925>

no

ok natsoc

its not as simple as that. you have a very simplistic view of it all. Marx is saying that its a product of the oppression the workers experience. he's not advocating for "state atheism" because "state atheism" will not, according to marx, be required once workers are liberated from this oppression @Flash

he's not saying religion bad or religion good, but rather religion is

exactly @Flash

@Ginnungagap thats why i put it in quotation marks

cause its what he said

flash i mean

``Then how could there be state atheism at that point``

thats exactly what im saying lmao

its why your claim that stalin's state atheism is somehow linked to marx is absurd

and not based in any understanding of marx

because marx was not a secularist

nor a theocrat

yes they have all been largely secular

this does not mean marx was a secularist

and that in turn does not mean marx supported some sort of state religion

Marx described religion as how he saw it and how he thought it came about

nothing more nothing less

not that im aware of lmao

i know the Castro's were extremely homophobic as well as Stalin

Fidel said in an interview that its impossible to be a communist and gay

cause the two are mutually exclusive

no

who that

sounds interesting

will look into him

my ideology is mainly informed by the works of Gentile, Marinetti and Jose Antonio

i liked his opposition to reactionaryism in fascist circles as well his opinion on art in general

yeah D'Annunzio is a legend

yeah he had some specific yikes takes such as his opinion on how children should be raised

i generally liked the manifesto of futurism tho

fair

he certainly became much less radical later in his life

paganism is larp

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the only semi acceptable pagans are like hellenic pagans and egyptian pagans. norse and celtic paganism is peak larp

because a large amount of what we know of norse paganism is just assumptions

anyway, no one actually believes in odin and shit

its just larp

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@Ginnungagap what country do you live in

communism is a materialist ideology that destroys culture

much like capitalism

have you read Marx

Marxism is philosophically a materialist ideology, subscribing to a materialist conception of history with ideas such as dialectical and historical materialism

^

individualism breeds moral degeneracy, hedonism and materialism

😔

thats actually a very based take for a liberal

materialism is a metaphysical theory that places the material world at a much greater importance than the immaterial and human mind/will etc. often proposing that thought is dependant upon the material

communism is materialist in a lot of ways, as mentioned before it subscribes to a materialist conception of history through dialectical and historical materialism

but it also reduces man to just an economic unit

much like capitalism

if you dont see an issue with that then theres really no point to this discussion lol. if your goals in life dont reach further than meaningless material pleasure then you are bound to regress into hedonism and moral degeneracy

basing your entire life around simple pleasures (drugs, sex, video games etc etc)

and not pursuing anything further than those pleasures

theres nothing wrong with playing video games

thats not the point here

the point is that if your goals dont reach further than material pleasures such as video games then you are bound to fall into moral degeneracy

family, spirituality, knowledge

bettering myself as a person

is english your second language

i feel like i have to define every second word

combine the two words moral and degenerate

i dont know how to simplify it further

when you experience moral degeneration. corruption, promiscuity etc

i really dont know how to make it more simple lol

jesus

thats not what im saying

at all

im saying that if your goals in life **dont go further** than simple pleasures such as video games then you will experience moral corruption

its fine to play video games

i dont have a problem

with that

but things such as family and knowledge should be your long term goals

fantastic

i blame both. these systems endorse and even encourage that mindset

im not saying that every single individual living under capitalism is going to become a moral degenerate

people have a duty to their community

to help better themselves and the people in those communities

it starts with family

thank you for such a thought provoking statement and intelligent discourse @Chad.

if our conversation is just going to be me repeating myself each time and defining simple words for you then ive lost interest tbh

@Huursa

ive just been telling you why communism is bad

``Cuz u cant explain shit all u do is use some vague shit``

i started off by using extremely specific phrases, you said you didnt understand what they meant and i literally had to define a word every sentence. so i started being much more simplistic for you

you cant have it both ways

i dont think anyone here has advocated for communism once

where are you getting this from lol

@Huursa Third positionist autocratic government with an economy sort of across between corporatism and syndicalism. we may as well stop the discussion right here though because you have already asked me to define 98287273 words for you and i cant be bothered defining more

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Holy shit

>calls someone a larper
>goes on to tell them to read fucking James mason

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Fatality

Yeah I’m sure there’s multiple contributing factors

China isn’t a hygienic place at all either lol

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/sports/basketball/kobe-bryant-dead.html