Yes. The massive wall street failure gave way to a lot of anger and resentment from lower and middle classes who lost everything. Not to mention the utter collapse of the US manufactoring industry. People rushed to more radical groups that could promise them what they wanted

People begin to seek justice and someone to blame when such a crisis happens. The rift in society began to develop

During the 2000s when the economy was good and people were stable such divisions were not present except for fringe groups

@Fitzydog to me the left right divide tends to go along the line, who do you trust more? Yourself or the government?

Economically speaking I would say, it's where should the money be? In the hands of the people, or the government

Both sides try to lure the lower classes, however it's true that progressives and socialists are generally more successful, especially in the more blue collar environmemts. However what happens when they fail to deliver? This is where we are at. The lower classes feel betrayed by the left who failed to give them their jobs back, and flock to the right and populist movements who promise action, mostly at the detriment of immigrants.

You are right to point out that the old lines of left and right are changing

The question is, whether this is the new precedent, or simply a phase of political history

Of course, but this phase of the radicalisation of ideas could die out once both fail

It depends, constitutions define a country, but sometimes they have to be ammended with time to fit in with the new times

The US is generally conservative

Well the US has a form of government which hasn't changed much in over 200 years with the exception of allowing more sectors of its population to vote

It's time for change then

*reign*?

Well having more people vote means a larger representation of their interests

Instead of having the country run by elites

Not lowering it, I don't think that's a good idea

Lowering it further than it already is that is

Because life expectancies were shorter

Because by 70 you would be on your way to the grave

Having such high childbirth deaths that it skews the life expectancy doesn't make it any better

It shows a lack of proper medical treatment available

It wasn't meant to that is true

But it is now, and it has to adapt

It's not a real democracy because half your government is bought off by corporations. A system which hasn't changed and adapted

They are **a** problem but not *the* problem

An old and outdated system of representation and election, massive gaps in equality, large social divides, an economy which is selling out to foreign production hubs etc... of course the massive lobbying of companies are another huge problem

@DanConway ?

@DanConway small gaps although morally bad aren't a problem, it is however when they become massive. Nowadays the gap between thr poor and the rich is ever growing, making it more and more impossible for the lowest to reach the highest. Social mobility is the sign of a healthy economy but with larger gaps in income and wealth this disappears.

@Deleted User dude stop

@DanConway refrigerators once a luxury are now a commodity. The income imequality refers mostly to the difference between the income the lower classes have vs the rise in prices. Not only that, but these wages are falling or not adjusting to price increase effectively making them poorer

Not to mention of course the precarity od labour nowadays

@Fitzydog having a higher top isn't bad unless it's at the expense of the low, which is the case

@Fitzydog an example that comes to mind was the wall street before the crash

Looking for other sources too. However much of the manufactoring that outsource workers and entire plants, or companies that lower wages to increase profit margins

M8 what?

@DanConway I have to agree with you there as well, globalisation is mostly at fault for the decline and stagnation of economies, particularly of the US

@Fitzydog Also in reference to your Median earnings chart, you can see that as of late they are stagnating, and unless you compare those numbers to inflation, they mean nothing 😕

yes, which is what I was talking about earlier yes

Give the natives their land back! 😛

What

@SuperNigger Why do you count me in with them?

I was not

yeh, Warrior saw that I was here and came tagging half your server

mate..

fuck off 😂

@SuperNigger jack, why did you change your profile agian to mimic Features?

Thank god I have a tag of you to remember you're Jack

@SuperNigger this guy is not the real feature, he's posing

I have a link to the server to prove it

!rank

!levels

I think that is the point. Most left wing parties and groups adopt the colour red as a form as associating themselves with workerrs' movements

Where did you get this one from, because on the website there are several

Because this may not be the Labour Manifesto

I'm referring to Generalissimo, since I didn't get that result by following the link you provided

It would take a high authority or influential imam to reform it

But it it were to follow the same way Europe went down, there would be an inevitable war between Shiites, Sunnis and reformers

Yes I had that, but without the sickle and hammer

ah

and also the communist party part

ok

oof

It's quite a statement to make after the recent allegations of anti-semitism within the party

What did he do?

Ah the Kingdom of Hungary

Nice pic of the northern Ottoman territories

Lmao lego trump

Not thicc enough tho

You guys debated about not having a debate

For a solid hour no less

Though the fire was intentional, California is going through longer and tougher droughts which is a direct consequence of climate change.

Such droughts make it easier for fires to propagate and become uncontrollable

And obviously it becomes harder to put them out as water reserves in lakes are dangerously low

@Arthur When people seize the means of production that is communism, not socialism. Socialism would be where the state seizes them

@Broo TulsiGang 2024 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 what were they protesting?

!rank

It's basically inconclusive

Lmao

Pink polo bro

That's where it's at

... you expect him to be serious? He's obviously lying to get some sympathy points

Which just backfires because we know he's lying and makes him look like an absolute idiot

Public transport should be state regulated in my opinion

It purpose is to serve the population, and is pretty much a necessity of large metropolitan areas.

Shouldn't be an instrument of profit

It should be a public good maintained with regulated ticket prices and taxpayer money (for those that live in urban environments)

That is outrageous

When you privatise public goods, it tends to be good for a while, but in the long run it always ends up failing

Not really, it takes a month to get something delivered.
I remember when I applied for a national insurance number that I got the letter for the appointment a WEEK after I had it

I mean it is a pretty sad story

These guys went on a journey to find the goodness of people

I think that laughing at them for what they did isn't necessary. Yeah, they were stupidly naive, but that was their way to see the world

*social housing*

Well football hooligans are more of a nuissance than benefit. They get wasted and trash the place with no regards to the locals

It's true though, there's a reason why coaches carrying footbal fans always go straight for the stadium

During the uefa and chamoions league finals there were a legitimate concerns for hooliganism with hundreds of police agents deployed, so the concern is understandable

``Edgy``

Why?

@Deleted User every newspaper has thses funny and humorous type articles, the ones you scroll all the way to the bottom