I've decided I wanna get a Chinese friend to learn more about what's going in inside the country socially, politically, and economically. Is interpals.com a good place to look?

@transience Maybe the heavier media censorship of the Chinese government is part of it?

The ideology is different, but it seems like China basically has Mao 2: Electric Boogaloo, with the removal of term limits and all.

https://youtu.be/OubM8bD9kck

Are there any English news/politics blogs that aren't afraid to tell it how it is in China?

The only blog I know like that is the HRIC (Human Rights In China?) daily brief. http://hric-newsbrief.blogspot.com/?m=1

Thoughts on China's belt and road project?

Yeah but what about that debt trap diplomacy?

China finally learned from the IMF I guess. But that doesn't make it any less unsettling.

But China presents as some warsaw-pact-tier shit.

I dunno. I guess I just kinda assume the worst bcuz China. But even if it's benevolent, I expect at least a free press to take a hit in the countries involved because why piss off the country that's stimulating your economy? It's in their interest right now to do everything to avoid pissing off Chinese Winnie the Poo and I'm worried what kind of effects that will have.

I hope at least some of the countries involved will try to develop some economic independence instead of sitting on their laurels.

Maybe. Who knows, maybe some of the beneficiaries are playing 3d chess.

I'm sure China would have an economic boon, only the workers will be fucked. Which is to say most everyone. I guess political stability could still be a challenge though.

Anyone want to play Go?

@Sdeck37 But I like prefer to play noobs. 😅

Why aren't there Tor exit nodes in China? China has so many people, so i was kinda surprised.

What does China's treatment of Hong Kong say about the future of China's relationship with its trading partners?

Can I anonymously get a VPS in mainland China?

Also, if I go to China on April 15th and hold a vigil, what would happen to me?

@Millwood you know, holding a candle with both hands, walking slowly, or something.

Btw why was the Hong Kong separatist party banned? :/

Hong Kong is supposed to be autonomous until 2049 though, that was the deal they made with Britain.

I think we already have enough trouble dealing with ourselves…

Do you think the CSSA should be banned from universities outside China?

Here's an argument in favor. https://www.forbes.com/sites/anderscorr/2017/06/04/ban-official-chinese-student-organizations-abroad/#5904a62a5bbc

https://m.csmonitor.com/1997/1031/103197.feat.film.1.html

Twenty years later: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/richard-gere-big-hollywood-movies-china-tibet-buddhist-dalia-lama-chinese-audience-blockbusters-a7693256.html

tfw chinkland has sent a million Uyghurs to camps but I'm just worried about my access to chink shit

@Tribit Funny thing, Australia was just about to pass a bill banning organs from China at some point. The person that authored it thought it'd be a slam dunk. There was a petition supporting a ban with 1.5 million signatures. But after a letter from the Chinese consulate that was sent to every MP, not a single MP from the three major parties voted in favor of the ban. Not one!

@Cactus the greens authored it. Or as least A green did.

Tips for not being an idiot when trying to befriend Chinese people in the US?

@JHWH I think you misread, I said not being an idiot.

I want to ask that other stuff eventually, but I know you need to break the ice first.

And that if they still have close family in China I'd probably abort.

@bentech did he have opinions about the umbrella movement?

Here's a get-rich-quick scheme that might work.

1. Move to a US state where employees are protected from discrimination based on their political affiliations and activities.
2. Apply to a job you're qualified for to a Chinese employer wearing clothes supporting Taiwan, Tibet, etc. They probably don't know about political discrimination laws.
3. After they don't hire you, sue for discrimination.

Mandarin is hard though. Can I just half ass it and memorize some phases?

I couldn't even learn Spanish fml

I'll try to excel in good phonology instead.

Wouldn't that be bad?

@bentech Kinda, I'm a noob.

Do people think that way unironically?

You know how http://watchingamerica.com/ aggregates news all around the world (but outside America) about America and translates articles? I think a similar thing would be cool for China, translated to English, Mandarin, and Cantonese.

If anyone wants to do the hard part (translating), I could take care of everything else.

@Tribit Why not? We could always host it in not-China.

I thought they already knew how to VPN…

And there's millions of Chinese not in China.

Anyone here in mainland China and willing to test a censorship circumvention technique for me? The software isn't made for this purpose, so I don't think there's much risk.

@Tribit I figured they might not mind if they already came to Discord, and entered a server called "Chink Shit General".

Is there a better place to ask?

Certainly not wechat.

I like the China Uncensored channel, but goddamn someone needs to teach him what socialism and communism is.

https://qz.com/1354463/malaysias-mahathir-wants-to-drop-20-billion-in-chinese-projects/

Smart.

Considering how Google really wants to enter the Chinese market, I've decided to archive every YouTube channel critical of the Chinese Communist Party. I only know about China Uncensored though. What are some other relevant channels?

Well, can't hurt.

They could always choose the middle ground and make it less pronounced, in which case having a collection is valuable.

They could also handwave it away by equating criticism with racism.

I hear they pull that in university a lot. They probably don't even know they're doing it, they're just so attached to the CCP that they feel personally attacked.

I don't think that's how it works. You can't just expel people over race or religion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2018/08/14/pentagon-barred-from-funding-confucius-institutes-on-american-campuses/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4ffcf400ebd2

W-why were they allowed to?

@Deleted User because it's profitable. It's not some "globalist conspiracy", it's just good business not to offend your customers.

biji Kurdistan

tfw I wanna tell everyone about how China is influencing western countries everywhere but some people would rehash it as a racist tirade, so then people close to them would just assume it's a racist tirade when it comes from anyone else.

I'd rather not have this though.

https://m.csmonitor.com/1997/1031/103197.feat.film.1.html

Twenty years later: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/richard-gere-big-hollywood-movies-china-tibet-buddhist-dalia-lama-chinese-audience-blockbusters-a7693256.html

No objections, some competition would be good.

When's the Tienanmen square massacre anime?

China has been making anime for years now actually. They're called donghua iirc.

@Dietrich that's to be expected, they suck at everything at first.

If this trade war keeps going on indefinitely, could we invest in Taiwan?

Uh… are you sure about that?

I mean, there's a lot of valuable minerals and stuff.

And some manufacturing/fabrication plants would be really expensive to have to abandon.

@Dietrich I heard index funds and Certificates of Deposit are more dependable anyways.

jfc, why does QQ need so many permissions? https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/reports/11316/

I dunno. You don't need any permissions to spy on people's wechat activity.

Umm… help?

If you're saying wechat is malware,
1. I don't disagree but
2. Notice it's asking for long term wechat users

@Matthew this isn't actually malware, it's from the wechat app I downloaded from the play store.

ikr

https://www.ft.com/content/60dddd46-dc74-11e6-9d7c-be108f1c1dce

Let's see how this goes.

smh

@Tervy OMEMO is better

Is there another server to discuss China in a somewhat serious manner?

https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/9809eq/if_you_have_received_threatening_or_harrassing/

wew

Oof, I want this so bad, but so expensive...

@Deleted User @transience it's not there.

ikr

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1517764344732.jpg

I ain't reading that badly formatted shit, make a proper blogpost.

smh

This is the flag of the Democracy Party of China. How horrendous! No wonder the party was banned! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9f/China_Democracy_Party.svg/1280px-China_Democracy_Party.svg.png

I like this term. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_chauvinism

Does it bother anyone else that South China Morning Post is owned by Alibaba?