James Peterson

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2019-11-19 22:15:31 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Hey guys

2019-11-19 22:16:42 UTC [JFG.world #ideas-and-debates]  

Hi, I am a race realist, but a cultural nationalist as opposed to an ethnic one. Is anyone here willing to offer a case for/debate me on ethnic nationalism?

2019-11-19 22:17:19 UTC [JFG.world #general]  
2019-11-19 22:17:26 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I am a race realist thouhh

2019-11-19 22:17:29 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

though*

2019-11-19 22:17:50 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

But a cultural nationalist as opposed to an ethnic one

2019-11-19 22:18:17 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Though I am open to changing my mind

2019-11-19 22:20:32 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@M'beke Sure, it emerges from a particular ethnicity. Japanese culture emerges from Japanese ethnicity etc. But that does not mean that a particular group cannot adopt the culture from another group

2019-11-19 22:21:15 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

For example, the Sudanese are black Africans but completely arabized culturally and linguistically . Same with the Berbers/Amazigh in North Africa

2019-11-19 22:23:40 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@M'beke Sure, if an inferior race replaces the Europeans, then no matter whether that race is culturally and linguistically European or not, it would be a bad thing .m

2019-11-19 22:26:15 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

And you asked as to why a different ethnic group would adopt our culture....well it happens naturally....Immigrant children typically tend towards speaking the language of the host nation, even preferring to speak it with their parents. Culture is something we get from society, specifically peer groups. So if, for example, a bunch of Chinese immigrants came here, after a few generations, their children will be assimilated

2019-11-19 22:26:36 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

You need a white majority initially

2019-11-19 22:26:39 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

That's true

2019-11-19 22:27:13 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. The low birth rates are a good reason no?

2019-11-19 22:29:07 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. Immigrants that adopt the culture and language will be the new Europeans. Via assimilation, even if there are no white people after hundreds of years, the new non-white population will have adopted our culture and language

2019-11-19 22:29:15 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

And any new immigrants will adopt them as a resilt

2019-11-19 22:29:18 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

result*

2019-11-19 22:29:22 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

via assimilation

2019-11-19 22:30:26 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. So you would prefer a white Muslim who speaks no English over a Japanese person who is completely assimilated linguistically and culturally?

2019-11-19 22:30:48 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Being European is genetic....but culture and languages of the Europeans are not

2019-11-19 22:32:55 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I agree to some extent. Cultural marxism along with the degeneracy being promulgated should be stopped...but

2019-11-19 22:33:58 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

And stopping those things would probably increase the birth rate to such a degree that we will not need immigration

2019-11-19 22:34:08 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

And that would be ideal

2019-11-19 22:35:03 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

BUT.....if the birth rate cannot be increased...i don't see any negative with equally high IQ immigrants...whose offspring will be assimilated due to white demographic majorities

2019-11-19 22:35:49 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. Yes...The right genes are important...which is why I ONLY support importing those that belong to equal races

2019-11-19 22:35:54 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Not inferior ones like blaxks

2019-11-19 22:35:57 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

blacks*

2019-11-19 22:36:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Medman Yes it emerged from us. But it can be adopted by other peoples. Culture is analogous to language in this regard

2019-11-19 22:37:29 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. Equal in terms of IQ and capacity to build advanced civilisations

2019-11-19 22:37:50 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Africans are an inferior race I will admit that

2019-11-19 22:38:02 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

And so are many others

2019-11-19 22:38:24 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Medman Why does them being white matter?

2019-11-19 22:38:48 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

As long as they are intelligent, have the same culture and language, then it's fine

2019-11-19 22:38:50 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

imo

2019-11-19 22:39:11 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. I know. But they can be

2019-11-19 22:39:29 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Just like any race can adopt English as their native language

2019-11-19 22:39:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Medman Pakis are an inferior race though

2019-11-19 22:40:04 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

So I would not want them into the country

2019-11-19 22:40:15 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

And ideally sterilize any that are in the country

2019-11-19 22:40:43 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@VukHR By inferior I mean not as smart and building less advanced civilisations

2019-11-19 22:40:52 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Not in a derogatory way

2019-11-19 22:41:10 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Medman What is a European?

2019-11-19 22:41:27 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Medman What does it mean to be native?

2019-11-19 22:41:33 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

How long back do you go?

2019-11-19 22:42:07 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. Race mixing Is healthy in some ways

2019-11-19 22:42:22 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

And would ideally be the future

2019-11-19 22:42:59 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

ยฅ @Angry. Oh that's interesting. Would you be fine with Jews immigrating?

2019-11-19 22:43:03 UTC [JFG.world #general]  
2019-11-19 22:43:28 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. Yep. Askhenazim

2019-11-19 22:43:35 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

They are smarter etc

2019-11-19 22:43:40 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

And look like us

2019-11-19 22:44:34 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. I am half Askhenazi and have Blue eyes, blonde etc. Plus I am 6 feet 4

2019-11-19 22:44:50 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

My dad is Askhenazi

2019-11-19 22:45:08 UTC [JFG.world #general]  
2019-11-19 22:45:23 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Sorry

2019-11-19 22:45:25 UTC [JFG.world #general]  
2019-11-19 22:45:42 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Deleted User Yeah I am against that

2019-11-19 22:46:17 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. I am neither. I just want to know as to how immigration has a negative impact on culture, language and the economy of European nations.

2019-11-19 22:46:28 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

If it is controlled

2019-11-19 22:46:56 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

the English for example, are mized

2019-11-19 22:46:58 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

mixed*

2019-11-19 22:47:12 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

A mixture of Normans, Celts, and Anglo saxons

2019-11-19 22:47:30 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Most European peoples are mixed

2019-11-19 22:48:28 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. Lol..I am not for authoritatively enforcing race mixing.

2019-11-19 22:48:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I am just not opposed to immigration of high IQ peoples into Europe

2019-11-19 22:49:04 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

IF...the birth rate problem cannot be solved internally

2019-11-19 22:49:37 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas Europeans have a below replacement level fertility

2019-11-19 22:51:48 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. Immigration does not entail race mixing. Hypothetically, if Japanese people became the majority in, say, England, there does not have to be race mixing between the "native" English and the New English Japanese. And, of course, the Japanese English will, after a few generations, be completely acculturated.

2019-11-19 22:52:10 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Deleted User I am not Jewish lol

2019-11-19 22:52:22 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

My mother is German/English

2019-11-19 22:52:37 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. Yes, my father is.

2019-11-19 22:53:09 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Yes. It benefits us economically for example

2019-11-19 22:54:16 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Because...if the fertility rate drops below replacement level...The population will age..and there will be eventually be no sufficient labour force to sustain ys

2019-11-19 22:54:18 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

us*

2019-11-19 22:55:17 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas Are you a libertarian?

2019-11-19 22:57:26 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Deleted User Gimme your actions mate.

2019-11-19 22:57:49 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I have an idea of what you guys believe in. And we agree to a large exfent

2019-11-19 22:57:52 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

extent*

2019-11-19 22:59:37 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Deleted User We will be one people after a few generations. Going back to the hypothetical, the Japanese diaspora will acculturate after a few generations, and years later, due to intermarriage, a new English ethnicity will arise.

2019-11-19 23:00:30 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Race is important . I am a race realist, BUT...it Only matters insofar as you let in races that are incapable of sustaining advanced civilisation

2019-11-19 23:04:50 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Deleted User There is one problem with your axiom. You can't coherently define a "native" ethnic group. For example, who are the "native" English?

2019-11-19 23:05:10 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Angry. Do it.

2019-11-19 23:05:20 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Define what a native English person us

2019-11-19 23:05:21 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

is*

2019-11-19 23:05:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I agree what white is..

2019-11-19 23:06:20 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

But obviously...you guys are ethnic nationalists, not racial ones I guess?

2019-11-19 23:06:39 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

You guys want France for the French, England for the English etc

2019-11-19 23:08:02 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas And why would it be a problem if say...an Askhenazi Jew did So? Or an East Asian?

2019-11-19 23:11:35 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

So it's mostly about comfort? Is that why you want an ethnostate?

2019-11-19 23:11:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Social cohesion is another one Right?

2019-11-19 23:13:49 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Right, so you guys would not care if the English got...over Many years, demographically replaced by Anglofied French people?

2019-11-19 23:13:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

It's all about Race?

2019-11-19 23:15:27 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

But are you sure that a lack of social cohesion arises due to racial differences?

2019-11-19 23:16:46 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I, for example, can relate more to a Dutch Japanese person who is culturally and linguistically Dutch like me, than to a Flanderer

2019-11-19 23:17:35 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Banjod But that's different. They speak a different language and have a different culture

2019-11-19 23:18:03 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Yeah by relate I mean I would prefer to associate with as well @Nerthulas

2019-11-19 23:18:40 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

If there was a neighbourhood of a Dutch Japanese and Dutch Chinese people, or a neighbourhood of Flanderers, I would prefer to live in the former

2019-11-19 23:18:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Many people feel the same way

2019-11-19 23:19:46 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Banjod A Dutch person of Japanese descent

2019-11-19 23:20:14 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@happysmiley Yes Flemmings. Sorry my English is quite bad๐Ÿ˜‚

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