yes people will be disappointed

but he can point to the fortificationa nd building that has occured

the fact that he got Mexico to help

he literally got Mexico to help pay for the wall

Mexico sold the Presidential jet to help pay for border security.

The question is always "Compared to what"

So these people that are upset about the wall are going to vote for the party that has been promoting no security and welfare to illegals?

I also wouldn't be surprised if he brings up that he got Mexico to help.

Well you can flush your vote down the toilet if you want.

vote McaAfee 👌

I don't understand what your point is I guess.

People aren't going to be Apathetic because of how insane the dems are

I was apathetic last election

I'm very libertardian

I'll vote for Trump this go around because the democrats are fucking insane

is the wall your big issue?

I don't get it

Border security has improved

We don't have a wall, but there are milestones.

HE can point to that on the campaign

and I guarantee he will, and also to their **obstruction and collusion**

You an Anne Coulter fan?

I just don't get how people latch onto the wall

Just getting Mexico to deploy their military on their borders has helped a lot

Even if the cartel is abducting and ransoming people LUL

Our immigration has obviously been completely cucked for like 30 years at least

70%++ of foreign born citizens residng in the US 20 years or more are on welfare

F1 Visa is cucked too

Yeah, but what's your point about anything

you brought up the wall

but what else?

I know it's just me as an example

but I didn't fucking vote

I didn't like Trump or anyone else

I'm voting in the next one

I'm just saying, I think there are a lot of people like me.

Mor apathetic

but invigorated by Trump not being as retarded as he seemed

and the Dems being more retarded than ever before

I don't see how ANYTHING he does besides start a war or crash the economy is going to cost him votes

I really can't even think of what I think it would take for him to cuck up for me to not vote for him.

What's my fucking alternative

throw it away on a thirdparty

I don't get what you think is going to make people apathetic about voting.

That happens no matter who is president

I think I get @Unironic Ohio Supremecist POV, but I don't get what your point is @Beemann

So what's your time scale?

Part of this is just the modern world and perverse incentives. I know one way to fix Congress.

Reveres the change Senator per every 30k people, not the bullshit we have no.

All the important shit is really local governments and congress

TBH

Congress can do a lot of shit to fuck with the president

as we've already seen

My plan would be to hang congress and start over

Revert the Permanent Apportionment Act

get rid of government Pensions

The President really doesn't have that much power

it's that Congress is full of cowards.

You need to read the constitution again.

a lot of what we're seeing with the executive actions is just because Congress is full of cowards

as well as congress likes it when he bombs melinated individuals in shithole countries

I'm not talking about removing the institution just the institutionalized

we've got far too many life long politicians who have no real skills.

You should have to be somewhat financially secure or get enough support from people so you can do the work without sucking off the gubmint teat

Being a Lawyers should almost disqualify you from being in Government, but what are most Congress creatures?

I don't know if you've ever worked with Lawyers, but it's not the group I think of when I think cheap and efficient

Really the long term plan is fixing Congress, and then dealing with the Judiciary activism.

Didn't trump sign the order banning the lobbyist revolving door?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

it's something

As I said, the President is really limited in his powers

and a lot of the stuff with Executive orders is completely untested

Congress is just full of cowards, and greedy for power.

They don't want to reduce the side channel, or enforce their authority over it over fear of culpability and the loss of power when they finally get their president back in office.

Executive orders isn't a clearly defined thing

The fact that you even think that the president really has a lot of power with it shows you've not even done remedial research.

Now you're back to the "apathy" which is where you lose me.

Things are always going to be a bit slanted to the short term.

Just like how right now is layoff season so corps can post better earnings for the 4Q

I know that was your criticism in part wasn't it?

People in general are going to be primed to prefer things they can conceive of in the short term

I'm not sure there's anything you can do about that other than increase average IQ

I'm sure @Unironic Ohio Supremecist has some spicy takes on how to do that 😉

IQ is falling so, I don't know what you're talking ab out.

I'm not clear if you think IQ is about the same or not.

uh

Don't know what you're talking about

but if you're talking about the Flynn affect

you didn't understand it

got a citation for what you're talking about, only 3 point increase I'm aware of is the Flynn Affect

and, what you're descibing about 3 points is correct, but not about what it means as an average.

....

Okay which standard IQ test are you talking about then?

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Stanford-Binet etc?

Your lack of response to the direct question makes me think you're still confused about the Flynn affect

There's not a "standard IQ test"

You're not answering my questions sufficiently, which makes me think you don't know what you're talking about with IQ

This 3 point nonsense is incorrect

you can take the same IQ test from 10 years ago.