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2019-11-10 16:15:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

What? Lol

2019-11-10 16:15:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Ik enough. Im a doctor

2019-11-10 16:16:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

No, im a cardiologist

2019-11-10 16:18:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

No lmao

2019-11-10 16:18:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Thatโ€™s when the DSM was updated

2019-11-10 16:20:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Thatโ€™s what the graph says

2019-11-10 16:20:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Do you know how to read graphs?

2019-11-10 16:20:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Look at it again, the scale isnโ€™t 1. Itโ€™s 2

2019-11-10 16:22:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Oh nvm

2019-11-10 16:22:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

I thought i had a graph i sent but it didnt send

2019-11-10 16:22:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Why cant i send pictures

2019-11-10 16:25:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Anyways i gtg, and thereโ€™s no point in discussing this if youโ€™ve been doing research for 8 years and havenโ€™t found the innumerable studies that show zero link between autism and vaccines. Probably wouldnโ€™t hurt to do some chemistry research - compounds dont have the same chemical properties as their elements

2019-11-10 16:27:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Ant study that has โ€œlinkedโ€ the two doesnโ€™t establish a causal link. Look at the studies that do

2019-11-10 16:48:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

@๐ŸŽƒOakheart๐ŸŽƒ you need an explanation for how things accelerate

2019-11-10 17:00:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Wtf

2019-11-10 17:00:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Itโ€™s not pseudoscience

2019-11-10 17:00:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Gravity is a well-established phenomenon

2019-11-10 17:01:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

I dont think the earth is flat

2019-11-10 17:01:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Itโ€™s an oblate spheroid

2019-11-10 17:02:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Why do you believe that

2019-11-10 17:16:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  
2019-11-10 17:16:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Why do objects accelerate when they fall

2019-11-10 17:17:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Gravity cannot exist in a flat earth model

2019-11-10 17:18:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Anything as massive as earth would become a sphere

2019-11-10 17:22:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

This is just logical

2019-11-10 17:23:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Entropy is high when a massive object is not spherical

2019-11-10 17:23:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Thereโ€™s a reason why our sun, moon and every other planet is spherical

2019-11-10 17:37:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

What donโ€™t i know @mrbizzy

2019-11-10 17:52:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Well i do know

2019-11-10 17:52:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

We can verify these things

2019-11-10 17:53:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Go get a telescope if you want

2019-11-10 18:24:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Iโ€™ve gotten no good explanation for it.

2019-11-10 18:48:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Thereโ€™s this crazy thing called a tool

2019-11-10 18:56:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Thatโ€™s not why i believe gravity exists

2019-11-10 18:57:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Thereโ€™s no other way to interpret the projectile motion of planets

2019-11-10 18:57:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

The problem is that our intuition often leads us astray

2019-11-10 18:57:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

It may appear that we live on a flat surface, but i dont think thatโ€™s the case

2019-11-10 18:59:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

If gravity exists, something as massive as the earth should be spherical. So you need some sort of explanation as to why itโ€™s not a sohere

2019-11-10 18:59:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Gravity is a well-established phenomenon

2019-11-10 19:00:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

We can show you how two masses interact with each other based on gravity

2019-11-10 19:00:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

I can define what gravity is

2019-11-10 19:01:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Itโ€™s the force between any two objects that have mass

2019-11-10 19:01:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

The attractive force*

2019-11-10 19:01:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Like, we can literally model gravity with math

2019-11-10 19:02:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

We have equations to explain this, that work 100% of the time

2019-11-10 19:02:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Gm1m2/r^2

2019-11-10 19:02:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

The equation for the force of gravity between any two objects^

2019-11-10 19:05:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

We have physics. We can model this stuff.

2019-11-10 19:05:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Anything as massive as earth will inevitably become a sphere

2019-11-10 19:05:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

This is simple thermodynamics

2019-11-10 19:06:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

You understand that โ€œtheoriesโ€ in science are **incredibly** reliable, right?

2019-11-10 19:07:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

This is for evolution ^ but it gets the same point across

2019-11-10 19:08:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Not right now, no.

2019-11-10 19:09:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Not necessarily

2019-11-10 19:10:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

^

2019-11-10 19:10:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

In the way we understand light to function, you need an explanation as to how the light from the sun doesnโ€™t illuminate the whole earth at once

2019-11-10 19:14:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

How does our explanation โ€œlack bitsโ€

2019-11-10 19:15:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

I still want an answer as to how things accelerate downwards on a flat earth

2019-11-10 19:19:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Alright, thereโ€™s no point in having a convo if youโ€™re not willing to engage in a discussion

2019-11-10 19:29:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

No

2019-11-10 19:29:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

I wanted an explanation for acceleration on earth

2019-11-10 19:29:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

You gave none

2019-11-10 19:32:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Why would you believe in a flat earth if you dont know how things accelerate downwards

2019-11-10 19:36:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

The galaxy is moving, our solar system is moving

2019-11-10 22:20:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

They can cause rashes and whatnot

2019-11-10 22:20:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Nothing lethal

2019-11-10 22:22:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Being a doctor makes me cringe at anti-vax stuff

2019-11-10 22:22:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

It really shows the failings of our education system

2019-11-10 22:23:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Everyone who is able to get vaccinated should be vaccinated

2019-11-10 22:34:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

There are certain genetic conditions where vaccines can cause extreme reactions like paralysis

2019-11-10 22:34:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Which is why itโ€™s necessary to have herd immunity for people like that who canโ€™t get vaccinations

2019-11-10 22:34:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Nah

2019-11-10 22:34:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

I was talking about the general population

2019-11-10 22:38:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Within the general population, aka people whose genetics are normal and donโ€™t have compromised immune systems, the worst that can happen is a rash or a cold. There are certain conditions where things like paralysis can be caused

2019-11-10 22:39:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

But letโ€™s be clear. These conditions are incredibly rare

2019-11-10 22:39:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

And theyโ€™re certainly not evidence that vaccines are bad

2019-11-10 22:39:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

I did answer it clearly

2019-11-10 22:40:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Itโ€™s called nuance

2019-11-10 22:40:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

The Absolute worst that can happen is something like temporary paralysis

2019-11-10 22:40:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Again, extremely rare.

2019-11-10 22:41:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Im sure there are extenuating cases where someone dies because of a bad batch

2019-11-10 22:42:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

But weโ€™re better off with those extenuating cases than having widespread disease

2019-11-10 22:43:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Dude

2019-11-10 22:43:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Do you really think those cases are representative of the effectiveness of vaccines?

2019-11-10 22:43:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Millions of vaccines are given each year, saving millions of lives

2019-11-10 22:44:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Then you look at the few extenuating cases and say โ€œoh look! Theyโ€™re so so bad. Letโ€™s get rid of emโ€

2019-11-10 22:46:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Well whatโ€™s your normative claim then

2019-11-10 22:49:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

I think everyone should be vaccinated. Everyone that is able to at least

2019-11-10 22:51:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

There are genetic conditions that make it unsafe, people with compromised immune systems shouldnt be vaccinated, etc

2019-11-10 22:52:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Aka people who have a greater chance of being harmed by the vaccine should not have to get it

2019-11-10 22:52:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

People who have a good chance of being harmed by it

2019-11-10 22:53:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Good chance = a lot more than the percentage of the population at large

2019-11-10 22:53:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Harmed = life put at risk

2019-11-10 22:55:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Running the **incredibly** low risk of paralysis is better than not being vaccinated and contracting a disease

2019-11-10 22:56:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

No, thereโ€™s a risk/reward associated with this

2019-11-10 22:57:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

You run the **incredibly** low risk of being temporarily paralyzed (more than 1 in 10,000,000) and you dont die from the flu or mumps or measles

2019-11-10 22:57:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

I dont think you understand how deadly these diseases are

2019-11-10 22:58:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

More people died from the flu in the ww2 era than from the holocaust and war combined

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