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What? Lol
Ik enough. Im a doctor
No, im a cardiologist
No lmao
Thatโs when the DSM was updated
Thatโs what the graph says
Do you know how to read graphs?
Look at it again, the scale isnโt 1. Itโs 2
Oh nvm
I thought i had a graph i sent but it didnt send
Why cant i send pictures
Anyways i gtg, and thereโs no point in discussing this if youโve been doing research for 8 years and havenโt found the innumerable studies that show zero link between autism and vaccines. Probably wouldnโt hurt to do some chemistry research - compounds dont have the same chemical properties as their elements
Ant study that has โlinkedโ the two doesnโt establish a causal link. Look at the studies that do
@๐Oakheart๐ you need an explanation for how things accelerate
Wtf
Itโs not pseudoscience
Gravity is a well-established phenomenon
I dont think the earth is flat
Itโs an oblate spheroid
Why do you believe that
Why do objects accelerate when they fall
Gravity cannot exist in a flat earth model
Anything as massive as earth would become a sphere
This is just logical
Entropy is high when a massive object is not spherical
Thereโs a reason why our sun, moon and every other planet is spherical
What donโt i know @mrbizzy
Well i do know
We can verify these things
Go get a telescope if you want
Iโve gotten no good explanation for it.
Thereโs this crazy thing called a tool
Thatโs not why i believe gravity exists
Thereโs no other way to interpret the projectile motion of planets
The problem is that our intuition often leads us astray
It may appear that we live on a flat surface, but i dont think thatโs the case
If gravity exists, something as massive as the earth should be spherical. So you need some sort of explanation as to why itโs not a sohere
Gravity is a well-established phenomenon
We can show you how two masses interact with each other based on gravity
I can define what gravity is
Itโs the force between any two objects that have mass
The attractive force*
Like, we can literally model gravity with math
We have equations to explain this, that work 100% of the time
Gm1m2/r^2
The equation for the force of gravity between any two objects^
We have physics. We can model this stuff.
Anything as massive as earth will inevitably become a sphere
This is simple thermodynamics
You understand that โtheoriesโ in science are **incredibly** reliable, right?
This is for evolution ^ but it gets the same point across
Not right now, no.
Not necessarily
^
In the way we understand light to function, you need an explanation as to how the light from the sun doesnโt illuminate the whole earth at once
How does our explanation โlack bitsโ
I still want an answer as to how things accelerate downwards on a flat earth
Alright, thereโs no point in having a convo if youโre not willing to engage in a discussion
No
I wanted an explanation for acceleration on earth
You gave none
Why would you believe in a flat earth if you dont know how things accelerate downwards
The galaxy is moving, our solar system is moving
They can cause rashes and whatnot
Nothing lethal
Being a doctor makes me cringe at anti-vax stuff
It really shows the failings of our education system
Everyone who is able to get vaccinated should be vaccinated
There are certain genetic conditions where vaccines can cause extreme reactions like paralysis
Which is why itโs necessary to have herd immunity for people like that who canโt get vaccinations
Nah
I was talking about the general population
Within the general population, aka people whose genetics are normal and donโt have compromised immune systems, the worst that can happen is a rash or a cold. There are certain conditions where things like paralysis can be caused
But letโs be clear. These conditions are incredibly rare
And theyโre certainly not evidence that vaccines are bad
I did answer it clearly
Itโs called nuance
The Absolute worst that can happen is something like temporary paralysis
Again, extremely rare.
Im sure there are extenuating cases where someone dies because of a bad batch
But weโre better off with those extenuating cases than having widespread disease
Dude
Do you really think those cases are representative of the effectiveness of vaccines?
Millions of vaccines are given each year, saving millions of lives
Then you look at the few extenuating cases and say โoh look! Theyโre so so bad. Letโs get rid of emโ
Well whatโs your normative claim then
I think everyone should be vaccinated. Everyone that is able to at least
There are genetic conditions that make it unsafe, people with compromised immune systems shouldnt be vaccinated, etc
Aka people who have a greater chance of being harmed by the vaccine should not have to get it
People who have a good chance of being harmed by it
Good chance = a lot more than the percentage of the population at large
Harmed = life put at risk
Running the **incredibly** low risk of paralysis is better than not being vaccinated and contracting a disease
No, thereโs a risk/reward associated with this
You run the **incredibly** low risk of being temporarily paralyzed (more than 1 in 10,000,000) and you dont die from the flu or mumps or measles
I dont think you understand how deadly these diseases are
More people died from the flu in the ww2 era than from the holocaust and war combined
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