Don't remember whay came out of it

.se is sweden tho

although that's just a domain name so idk

> pedophiliya
~~found a slav~~

Tbh this might have something to do with them being adopted and not with them being gay.

Bio family is obviously always better

In the forth one you mean?

Also how could their bio parent be homo

uh-oh

alright

I'd like to point out that this situation isn't something you can solve by just banning gay marriage and gay adoption

Because you don't need to have a right to marry and adopt to do this shit

@Tero Liberaldls tend to be against against traditional families because they consider them sexist.

@Tero the gays replief

with this

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26572-largest-study-of-gay-brothers-homes-in-on-gay-genes/

they explain the prevlance of homosexual children in homosexual households with the "gay gene"

aha

I see now

I confused the two studies

also yeah based gene therapy

@Tero are you sure the study in question was about adopted kids?

I mean the first one

The 33-57% one

@Tero apparently it was debunkked

shumm has been proven to have used biased methodlogy

@Son of Rome has that person already started

you know

✂️

should gender reassignment surgery be allowed?

This is my view too. But do you believe it should be banned?

But what if people agree to it voluntary?

Also, self-castration isn't banned either.

Hm. That's an interesting take. Could you show me the evidence?

guys

I'm trying to find a right-wing reddit sub

Last time I was there it had about 500 subscribers

I think its name was smth like "transgenderreality" or "transreality" or "transtruth" but none of those seem to work

Perhaps somebody knows its?

nvm found it apparently I spelled transtruth incorrectly

guys

how do we reply to

https://i.redd.it/s9lpviclybf41.jpg

this

like the "homosexuality serves a biological purpose" argument gets thrown around a lot

yeah but like that's what I am asking about

what arguments are there against gay being ok?

I mean suicide rates are caused by society

Which, you know, we live in

So it's a pretty bad argument

It works against trans people but that's a whole other story

What rights?

I mean, yeah, but can't that be due to social conditioning?

@😝JIK Bleach😜 what privelegs do they want?

Like I'm not talking about trans bullshit here

But what if gay actually is okay?

so the data from that pic is false?

so is engaging in homosexual sex frlm time to time okay?

okay but why isn't the argument about biological purpose valid?

yeah I'm not trying to appeal to nature here

well the adoptipm thing

I mean the homosexuality did evolve for some reason?

but like

if the gays have a very distinct biological purpose of adopting and raising offspring, why do we need to ban them from adopting?

but like isn't that evidence?

actually, they do

animals do have altruism because it allows the species as a whole to survive better

do you believe that that's the case in the west?

population getting out of control

so back to the gay question

@Tero wdym

this depends on what does "related" mean

but all the humans share a line of descent

of course

I mean that's obviously true

But it doesn't demolish it

I'm not sure what you mean lol

Are you arguing against altruism?

I mean I'm not currently agruing for communism lol

actually

no

because this indvidual's relatives can carry those genes in inactive state

how so?

ah well this is true but it isn't really about evolution

well the thing is that the change is gradual

so a siginificiant shift in the "wrong direction" cannot really occur

the "defective" individuals will become unable to reproduce way before thst

what you said only matters when the population is really small

like, really small, when every speciman matters

no, mutations don't become more drastic

Huh. Well I doubt that's a significiant factor.

well back to gays, even if we argue that altruism is not always good, doesn't the persisabtce of homosexual genes prove that they werr somehow beneficial for the species?

yeah but aren't they usually significiantly more rare

@Tero how can it benefit the homosexuals themselves

but each particular genetic disease usually isn't

It would be recognised as such but wouldn't necessarily be bad.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be bad, obviously.

I'm just saying that this is actually up to a debate.

Some people argue that bisexuality is actually the norm for humans and therefore the more bisexuals there are, the happier the people, the better for society.

lesbianism is based?