If homosexuality is activated by the same genes that activate something else, like making someone's reflexes extremely high, then it might be a byproduct of something beneficial

But I don't see a case beyond that

@unfriendly teapot

Plus the homosexual trait itself isn't beneficial, just a byproduct, in that situation.

Also, why are we accepting that it is in fact genetic in the first place?

well it's somewhat heritable

If it were genetic, it would have a tendency not to be expressed after several generations, I'd think.

I've not heard of this

yeah identical twin of a homo has a 25-50% chance of also being a homo

Plus, homosexuality is purely behavioral. It can be explained by upbringing. If you 'inherit' it from a parent, it might have simply been learned.

I'm not saying it isn't genetic, but I don't think we can really determine one way or another. At least right now.

I'm also going to assume that none of the twins studied had been separated for control.

imo genetic + epigenetic effects are probably the largest contributors

the thing is you can go down the list of relatedness, from identical to fraternal twins, to mere siblings, to cousins, etc. and find the decreasing correlation

Hm.

the birth order effect is a well recognised environmental//epigenetic effect

like where sons born later are more likely to be homo

Odd.

at any rate, imo homos are self-evidently undesirable, because any reasonable person would prefer their children to not be, and if i put something in the water which made everyone a homo, this would be universally recognised as bad

It would be recognised as such but wouldn't necessarily be bad.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be bad, obviously.

I'm just saying that this is actually up to a debate.

Some people argue that bisexuality is actually the norm for humans and therefore the more bisexuals there are, the happier the people, the better for society.

i agree somewhat, but only for women

lesbianism is based?

no

lesbians are fucked in the head lol

but women generally are aroused by sexual stimuli whether it involves men, women, or even animals

yeah I've seen such points of view expressed

except it was about men

i knew I person who claimed that every men is naturally more gay than every non-lesbian woman out there

well all the studies i've read on the matter indicate otherwise

<:pepe_smug:560207654207750154> red: syrian arab army 🇸🇾 | green: turkey 🇹🇷 + allied jihadists (surrounded turkish control points indicated by markers)

They lost Saraqib huh?

TURKOIDS SEETHING

https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1225718091369283584

So wait, are the Syrians doing a counter offensive and taking territory?

@EnderOctanus The SAA have been kerb stomping the rebels for the last 3 years

I meant, are they pushing for Turkey itself?

They should just bomb civilians if it's full scale war. What else are you gonna do?

no they are liberating the parts controlled by the turkish backed jihadists @EnderOctanus