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2018-06-06 23:39:57 UTC

Yes, SVN has its use cases, but I came not across them.

2018-06-07 01:07:37 UTC

Dude, I saw the BitKeeper shitshow unfold.

2018-06-07 01:09:51 UTC

The creator got butthurt because the community didn't want to use his proprietary client. So they started reverse engineering it with telnet. Then he got so pissed off, he revoked the free license he had granted to the Linux project.

2018-06-07 01:11:10 UTC

when did that happen?

2018-06-07 01:11:16 UTC

hasn'

2018-06-07 01:11:24 UTC

t bit keeper been around since forever?

2018-06-07 01:11:41 UTC

Alleging they broke the EULA against reverse engineering when installing the client. But since they didn't use the client to reverse engineer, no license was breached.

2018-06-07 01:11:56 UTC

Right before git was created.

2018-06-07 01:12:36 UTC

BitKeeper revoked the license, Linux development shut down for a month, while Linus was writing git.

2018-06-07 01:14:07 UTC

but it's open source now, right?

2018-06-07 01:14:16 UTC

And you know how SVN was a leap over CVS, because it tracks the whole repo instead of individual files? Guess what, git is designed to also track individual files instead of whole repo, while hg tracks the repo by default.

2018-06-07 01:15:03 UTC

Open source since 2016, after its user base dropped to nearly zero.

2018-06-07 01:15:28 UTC

I don't know of a single developer who ever used BitKeeper voluntarily.

2018-06-07 01:16:40 UTC

A bit like Visual Source Safe, where not even Microsoft would use that steaming pile of shit, but would gladly sell licenses and support.

2018-06-07 01:18:07 UTC

Typical email in a VSS environment: "who the fuck went home early while holding the lock on this file I need to update?"

2018-06-07 01:18:27 UTC

i had to use VSS, it gave me ptsd and cancer

2018-06-07 01:19:29 UTC

It's amazing how Microsoft engineers couldn't figure out it's possible to merge files that were changed concurrently.

2018-06-07 01:20:52 UTC

I think they could have done that, it's probably more along the lines of whether they liked the feature or deemed it unnecessary.

2018-06-07 01:21:50 UTC

My main gripe with git is how horribly it fails to "work" as soon as you deviate from the regular "add-commit-push" workflow.

2018-06-07 01:22:26 UTC

And you have to scramble to stackoverflow to get help.

2018-06-07 01:22:54 UTC

yeah but I don't know of a better alternative.

2018-06-07 01:23:30 UTC

Because the manual is full of terms that are unrelated to what you're trying to accomplish, and you even need to use an unrelated git command to do the job you need, as a collateral effect.

2018-06-07 01:23:39 UTC

Hg, my dude.

2018-06-07 01:23:46 UTC

Mercurial.

2018-06-07 01:24:15 UTC

I even `hg clone git://...`.

2018-06-07 01:25:21 UTC

I never tried either, so I can't really comment on them, but now I will. thanks for the tip

2018-06-07 01:27:36 UTC

Depending how you get it, it might already come with hg-git and hgsubversion, the two extensions you need to rule them all.

2018-06-07 01:27:55 UTC

I think TortoiseHg comes with both.

2018-06-07 01:28:27 UTC

alright, thanks man

2018-06-07 02:12:49 UTC

HI discord! i need help with math again. (or "maths" if you're weird ;P) Find conditions on "d" such that x^2+y^2=16 and 3x+y=d have zero, one and tow solutions if possible. support your answers algebraically. https://www.desmos.com/calculator using this calc Desmos Graphing Calculator Desmos graph i know that the line intersects the circle at about (+or-) 12.7, but i have to the exact number algebraically, and i keep getting =(+or-)4, and i don't know why, since that's definitely not it

2018-06-07 02:16:44 UTC

... why would we do your math homework?

2018-06-07 02:22:51 UTC

Rewrite the second equation so it's `y = ...`, then replace `y` in the first equation with that. You end up with one quadratic equation with one variable, `x`. Find its roots, you end up with an expression with `d` inside a square root operation.

2018-06-07 02:27:10 UTC

@DanielKO sorry, i got thrown this way, and its part of a "project"

2018-06-07 02:29:13 UTC

To be more rigorous, break the circle down into two functions; upper semi-circle and lower semi-circle.

2018-06-07 02:30:18 UTC

```
y = โˆš...
y = -โˆš...```

2018-06-07 02:34:36 UTC

@DanielKO thanks, i got a finally found a friend of mine, but if that does work, i use that ^, thank you for time

2018-06-07 18:26:57 UTC

@vapefruit well if the program doesn't use the provided APIs how is microsoft supposed to ensure they work? They can't.

2018-06-07 18:27:41 UTC

you are not wrong @Deleted User

2018-06-07 18:28:17 UTC

for applications this is certainly true but in the kernel they constantly mess with things

2018-06-07 18:28:29 UTC

they change the driver signing rules

2018-06-07 18:29:03 UTC

they changed certain apis and even structs and told nobody about it

2018-06-07 18:29:14 UTC

this is how anti virus software breaks all the time

2018-06-07 18:30:01 UTC

@vapefruit Applications shouldn't be hooking into anything that low level. If it isn't an exposed API things will break

2018-06-07 18:30:57 UTC

@Deleted User most anti viruses have stopped hooking into things and are using the obcallbacks provided by microsoft which promised to be more sustainable

2018-06-07 18:31:03 UTC

except they aren't

2018-06-07 18:32:06 UTC

Driver signing rules IMHO is fine as that is something kernel level.

2018-06-07 18:32:58 UTC

Even with high level libraries e..g. C# there are problems with people using reflection in certain libraries between .NET version that are compatible e.g. 4.0 vs 4.5 for example

2018-06-07 18:33:35 UTC

Basically someone has used reflection to use a private method and when the .NET team changes it that lib breaks

2018-06-07 18:34:50 UTC

@Deleted User yeah I dont do much work with C# though so it's not a personal concern of mine

2018-06-07 18:38:29 UTC

Well it is the same sort of complaint. People basically used undocumented APIs and it broke a load of code and caused people pain

2018-06-07 19:51:14 UTC

MS had (not sure if they still do) a division to handle compatibility with older software. Most of their job was identifying which part of the program was using some API wrong, how it just worked by accident, and then replicate the happy coincidence in newer Windows versions, whenever it detects the program doing it wrong.

2018-06-07 19:51:55 UTC

There was one engineer that posted some articles about it on his msdn blog.

2018-06-07 19:53:22 UTC

@DanielKO I am aware, however that is them being nice.

2018-06-07 19:53:29 UTC

One app, I think from Adobe, would forget to initialize a struct to ask for a font. Another, was an audio driver, that would just get stuck in an infinite loop, and the vendor would refuse to fix it.

2018-06-08 01:43:08 UTC

Never use GoDaddy, they're scammers

2018-06-08 05:27:00 UTC

@Durtle02 ??? what they aren't bad as a rule

2018-06-08 05:27:15 UTC

lmao they're not bad they're terrible

2018-06-08 14:43:48 UTC

setup thread

2018-06-08 14:43:51 UTC

ill start

2018-06-08 14:58:06 UTC

How do you even type?

2018-06-08 15:03:49 UTC

I'm guessing they move the piano when they aren't using it

2018-06-08 15:23:35 UTC

>inb4 he uses the white keys to chat, and black keys to game.

2018-06-08 15:33:22 UTC

that would be impressive actually

2018-06-09 09:49:19 UTC

@Durtle02 Dunno what you are on about, at least in the UK they seem pretty decent. My mate is using them for a few wordpress sites and everything works fine.

2018-06-09 09:50:08 UTC

@DanielKO obviously they use the keyboard ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-06-09 10:04:51 UTC

Arenโ€™t there better free sites then Wordpress?

2018-06-09 13:39:15 UTC

@Deleted User I run servers and I have a few where we host WordPress sites, did you need one?

2018-06-09 13:39:29 UTC

No

2018-06-09 14:44:54 UTC

@Deleted User for ease of use and user support Go Daddy is really good from my experience with them. I haven't had a bad experience with them, even the tech support was pretty helpful (I am a .NET dev so apache stuff / nginx stuff I have a hard time with)

2018-06-09 16:24:57 UTC

If you're just looking for a host DreamHost is pretty hard to beat in terms of cost/performance

2018-06-09 16:25:13 UTC

lots of features too, and little hassle

2018-06-09 16:57:32 UTC

github works for static sites at zero cost

2018-06-09 16:58:18 UTC

@Deleted User I am going to be waiting for that reason why Flask is bad

2018-06-09 16:58:47 UTC

Flask is great

2018-06-09 16:59:24 UTC

@Deleted User has a problem with it

2018-06-09 16:59:41 UTC

@Deleted User lets hear why?

2018-06-09 17:00:16 UTC

in favor of what?

2018-06-09 17:00:52 UTC

i prefer ReactJS + Redux with traditional server (nginx, Apache), or Isomorphic Flux + ReactJS with NodeJS.

2018-06-09 17:01:46 UTC

apples and oranges then.

2018-06-09 17:01:48 UTC

@Deleted User good for you

2018-06-09 17:02:03 UTC

@Deleted User doesn't tell me why .NET or Flask is bad

2018-06-09 17:02:23 UTC

Jesus, JS sucks donkey balls. Give me .NET over JS any day.

2018-06-09 17:02:43 UTC

You cannot get around it, if you program Web Apps.

2018-06-09 17:02:50 UTC

The backend is not JS.

2018-06-09 17:02:58 UTC

Keep JS inside the browser.

2018-06-09 17:03:04 UTC

Not on the server.

2018-06-09 17:03:15 UTC

It is, the backend is another microservice.

2018-06-09 17:03:27 UTC

NodeJS?

2018-06-09 17:03:48 UTC

It simply hosts the front end, and from there you make REST calls to the backend API gateway.

2018-06-09 17:03:55 UTC

yo dawg, I heard you like callbacks, so I put callbacks in your callbacks so you can callback while you callback

2018-06-09 17:04:22 UTC

@DanielKO do me a favour tell me why .NET is bad today, not 15 years ago.

2018-06-09 17:04:38 UTC

Whose `this` is this `this` again?

2018-06-09 17:04:40 UTC

Point was, Flask is not that secure, I heard from my friend, who had to hack it in a master security course.

2018-06-09 17:04:57 UTC

@Deleted User tell me the security vunerabilities

2018-06-09 17:05:11 UTC

I personally cannot.

2018-06-09 17:05:12 UTC

@Deleted User tell me something more than "my mate said"

2018-06-09 17:05:21 UTC

I can ask him, when I meet him.

2018-06-09 17:05:21 UTC

@Deleted User so you don't know shit

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