Microsoft hasn’t even bought it yet and my roommate’s already switching to gitlab. 😆

Is gitlab still slow?

inb4 Google buys gitlab and just closes it down.

Anyway, Steve Balmer was notorious for instating a Survival of the Fittest inside Microsoft, that prevented any team from collaborating with each other. Even their compiler division got demoralized. People kept saying the Xbox division was the only part of MS was fun, because the guy in charge kept fighting back against integrating the management with the rest of the company.

This kind of shit kills companies. It kills their products, chips off their edge.

@meratrix that is ridiculous.

@DanielKO going to be slow until everyone stops sperging out

Heil Microsoft, then. Let MS, Google , Apply, Oracle, Amazon, ... buy all smaller companies, it will be the best for the consumer 🤞

yeah I read about that bull

basically they decided that they'll cut x % lowest performers per year

result - people started focusing on sabotaging others and doing everything measurable they could , rather than doing productive stuff

Reminder that gitlab runs off Azure, the Microsoft cloud service. That's why it's slow.

cant you run it on your own server?

I know, it ispossible with Stackoverflow.

@Deleted User getting bought for billions doesn't make you a small company.

@DanielKO Gitlabs probably hasn't bothered upping whatever they were paying on Azure.

@Deleted User yes you can run your own version of Gitlabs but you need a fairly decent server from what I have read

You should run on your own server, if you are a company.

??

I am not suprised, that for a MS fanboy, who seems to like vendor-locks, it is a ?

@Deleted User It really depends how big you are. Whether it is worth hosting your own stuff. Normally it isn't worth it, simply because it takes time having to setup and maintain a server and if you have a small team it usually isn't worth it.

@Deleted User I don't like vendor lock-in, BTW I am typing this on a Mac

I don't expect it for start-ups and for bootstraping, but for established companies. Source code is one of your most precious resources.

@Deleted User It still depends. I've worked at companies where code wasn't there most precious resource and they were fairly large and a bitbucket account is still better than a sourcesafe box that isn't regularly backed up and nobody knows where the box physically lives (probably some old PC sitting under someone's desk).

Also if the place isn't a dev shop or doesn't have a large in house dev team, it is almost impossible to get accounts and the rest of the business to spend money on you, so again something free and cheap is better than nothing at all.

Even some of the big boys don't do stuff particularly well, the only reason there was a starcraft 4k upgrade was because someone found the assets on a CD in someone's basement

i.e. Blizzard had lost the code and the assets to SC1 back around 2000 and had been issuing patches probably using a fucking hex editor

I worked at companies that had all those stuff in-house. I can get it for start-ups and very small companies. In case of the others, it is laziness and cheapness.

I don't talk about a kubernetes cluster in-house.

Maybe in some cases, but other times there is usually just a few web devs and a support tech that are just trying to do their best. Things are rarely perfect. It just is how it is sometimes.

thats small, I had univresity course projects with more team members.

@Deleted User same here. But the rest of the business can be quite large and there are just a few folks doing thing like websites, IT admin stuff etc. It really depends.

For example I used to contract at a place where the head of IT was a guy that came up from punchcards. He knew his stuff about managing things like service desks etc, but he didn't know about newer stuff and was reluctant to sign off on it (quite understandably) unless there was an official consultant round from a vendor. So the trick with him was "Well the official documentation from <insert software vendor> recommends".

Making carte blanche statements like "You should be doing" while you might be correct in a broader sense, sometimes just improving stuff a little bit can help loads.

TL;DR; rome wasn't built in a day and sometimes it is better to ease people into it

I never stated that, I said "should" not "must".

@Deleted User I know, I was just explaining my reasoning to you.

https://youtu.be/jBBBYNZeuk4

I want it!

@franti @Deleted User I finished it 😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbOA8ErEkr4

with Franti's shitpost as well , 🤣

Here's the actual thing demonstrated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ziWLChldNc

@Durtle02 lol

I didnt expect this kind of reaction to my shitpost

lol

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"Hello fellow developers developers developers developers..."

Nice meme @meratrix

Infinite wisdom gives you all of the other ones. smh my head 😤

I'm really upset about GitHub being acquired by Microsoft

I'm not a CopyLeft guy, however I do back them in this case, as GitHub was this great platform to share open code projects

I think GitHub shat on everyone with that buyout.

Microsoft is the worst company to run a open source community.

@Durtle02

@meratrix

I bet freenode is on fire right now

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I never liked GitHub

I personally found GitHub useful.

Jenkins, GitLab, and other build or code-repository services lacked in proper design.

I will say GitHub is a well-done and well-established service and community.

Their business model strongly encouraged open-sourcing projects. Microsoft buying this sends a strong message that this will no longer be a priority.

I never cared to have my stuff open source. I keep all my stuff on a private fileserver I host at home.

It's not even like a website costs that much

The projects I work on are paid accounts on GitHub who keep their code closed.

There are also open-source clones for GitHub that can be privately hosted.

Git on command

it's not hard

I will never use mercurial or subversion ever again

It's not like it's going away either, and has Microsoft even stated their plan for it? They might just want the profit and might not change it.

It's definitely a PR stunt

sec

https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/

oh god the hentai cat

Microsoft has been a bully buyer since foundation.

To expect them to change in a matter of a few years is a big lie.

so i should delete my account

You do you

I'm highly suspicious though.

lol

just joined #github on freenode

Github was an early pusher of "Code of Conduct" cancer, I don't feel sorry for their fate.

Also, why not mercurial? I find it superior to git in almost every way.

@DanielKO I find more concern in the community around GitHub at this point than the service itself. I remember the code of conduct crap.

@DanielKO One of the reasons I don't praise them. Another being I'm not on board with copyleft

Git originating from a copyleft group

iirc

But they don't force you to any of those things (copyleft, code of conduct), tho.

*stops using github*

Git came from Linus, he's against copyleft. You're not well informed in the subject.

@DanielKO why is the kernel under GPL 2 then?

He regrets it.

It's impractical to relicense it, with tens of thousands of contributors that would need to be contacted.

Git was born out of a shitshow, where Linus wanted everyone to use his friend's proprietary tool, BitKeeper.

Git is great. You don't want to go back to svn.

Hg is better.

@DanielKO lol that is a retelling of history. Bitkeeper changed their license

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitKeeper#Pricing_change

@DanielKO anyone that says X source control system is better than the other when they are both blatently similar is either trolling or clueless.

Also SVN is better for some projects than Git

https://i.redd.it/vt2wqr5i6f211.jpg