Apple iMessage? Come on

Data mining from their own devices?

You think they're not doing that?

I mean iPhones are only 15% of the market.

they make fat stacks boi

Apple is trying brand themselves as the privacy guys from what I understand.

lol okay.

I got something interesting for you here from a convo on a different server
government contractors ARE bound to generally abide by constitutional protections of speech, etc
ironically for this case, every major tech company is a government contractor because the NSA paid them to spy on people
this was proven in court
they are de jure government contractors

Good luck with that when they're fully owned by China

https://9to5mac.com/2018/03/30/apple-privacy-policy/amp/

I don't believe a god damned word any of these tech companies say

No one should

apple have shown a lot of time they are not to be trusted at all.

@franti that's an interesting argument. I need to think about it.

Do you have a link to the court case?

Examples? @Nordhand

they will clock down your old phones to make you buy the laitest one. they are big on making it laptops desigined to fail just as your warrenty runs out. you have to rights to self repar any items. the list is long on consumer hostiles polisyes they run

I mean the reason Siri is so bad compared to Cortana or Alexa is becauase Apple doesn't have the same amount of personal data on you.

that and they haven't been pumping money into natural speech engines and shit for years

well, not the same level of money

That's not privicy issues. Apple isn't a tech company they are a tech marketing firm.

@Shurik 1) no
2) it was technically only one tech company but it would be easy to argue in court that it would apply to the others
it was specifically regarding the fact that the NSA paid one of them (facebook I think?) for the equipment that let them collect traffic

Apple has never been a pioneer in any feild. They have taken an old idea and perfected it.

they show no contempt for it consumers. so why are you do trust they treat your private data any better

Apple's business model is polishing turds

and they are extremely good at it

^

apple turd ^

the next iphone

if only they could bring steve jobs back to life

fuckin

Steve "I've got the most treatable form of cancer with the highest survival rate but I believe in homeopathic remedies and won't get real treatment" Jobs

<:super_edgy:426099058466095119>

he'd still be alive now if he didn't take the final cuck

@turtwig is that true?

absolutely

Wow

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8841347/Steve-Jobs-regretted-trying-to-beat-cancer-with-alternative-medicine-for-so-long.html

Yeah, he was a fruitarian

pancreatic cancer

Which probably led to his cancer as well hahaha

@franti
No what? I would like to know the court case you are talking about. My Google searches are coming up short.

@Shurik I dont have the case

steve "i hate my daughter and wishes she died" jobs was not a nice guy in any measurement
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/steve-jobs-brutal-last-words-13030081

I was being a bit glib with the survival rates

Pancreatic cancer usually kills

I thought he had bowel cancer

but he still refused real treatment

It was less lethal than normal but still

he had a good chance as he was in good health when it was discovered but refused the treatment was just idiotic

@Nordhand Good health? His diet *caused* his cancer

well his general health as he was not a 160kg lard ass that did sit all day in his couch

I never really liked steve jobs... this does little to help

he was a true asshole to everyone around him

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/08/08/bill-nelson-the-russians-have-penetrated-some-florida-voter-election-systems/

THE RUSSIANS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA

So a cyclist did this

I been watching a bunch of Brexit related and other UK news stuff lately. You guys got a real problem over there.

Jacob Rees-Mogg is pretty badass.

And I was totally wrong about Tommy Robinson.

You're probably still wrong about a lot of things, let's be honest lol

Like what?

idk, I'm just making a wild guess since you mentioned Tommy Robinson this late in the game.

Well in my defence, I haven't got much reason to know about him. I'm from Canada.

🤷🏻

Just got on a stint of watching Brexiteers and Tommy Robinson this week.

We'll black-pill you soon enough

For a while I've trusted Majid on him but now I think Majid has treated him a bit unfair.

I'm pretty sure Maajid is 'liberal' in the same way Richard Spencer is 'far-right'

I don't get it.

Richard Spencer isn't even on the right. He's just a racist progressive lol

Well, he's alt-right though.

He is properly a fascist.

Well yeah, they call themselves 'alt-right'. It's alt-something alright. Socialists don't usually associate themselves with the Right.

So were the Nazi's not right-wing by your view?

By many people's view. They're not right wing

Nazis are a different brand of socialist

Which is definitely on the left.

It's all about collective vs individual identity. Nazis just happen to favor their white identity over others

Socialism was on the left, but that isn't all the Nazi's were. Their totalitarian impulses came from the right.

Collective identity can exist on the right.

Anyone can be totalitarian

Yeah.

The Right doesn't mean 'Authoritarian'

The totalitarianism of the Nazi's was a right-wing totalitarianism.

If anything, it's usually the opposite..

idk where you're getting this weird 'right-wing' thing from

Well, if we look at the reasons it was totalitarian it was based on separate groups into hierarchies, and disgust sensitivty towards Jews and other groups.

Those are right-wing traits my dude.

Can you provide a source for that statement?

I've heard Jordan Peterson go on about it for hours.

On Joe Rogan with Bret Weinstein.

For example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum

Disgust sensitivity is related to trait orderliness.

JBP goes on and on about it.

Seems like he's got it right to me.