You have 4 tech giants that are willing and able to control the ideological flow of natural conversation, and are being told which way to push by the Media/Political/Academic complex

Why do you want the government to get involved in the internet? Also how would you propose the government regulate the internet?

What 4 are you talking about? Google, Facebook, Twitter, and? @Fitzydog

Apple

What

or Microsoft

Basically uphold the laws of free speech regardless of the situation

What

The state can intervene if this right is infringed upon

I guess I can see Microsoft because of Bing and the power of defaults, but even then that's a pretty weak case.

Apple iMessage? Come on

Data mining from their own devices?

You think they're not doing that?

I mean iPhones are only 15% of the market.

they make fat stacks boi

Apple is trying brand themselves as the privacy guys from what I understand.

lol okay.

I got something interesting for you here from a convo on a different server
government contractors ARE bound to generally abide by constitutional protections of speech, etc
ironically for this case, every major tech company is a government contractor because the NSA paid them to spy on people
this was proven in court
they are de jure government contractors

Good luck with that when they're fully owned by China

https://9to5mac.com/2018/03/30/apple-privacy-policy/amp/

I don't believe a god damned word any of these tech companies say

No one should

apple have shown a lot of time they are not to be trusted at all.

@franti that's an interesting argument. I need to think about it.

Do you have a link to the court case?

Examples? @Nordhand

they will clock down your old phones to make you buy the laitest one. they are big on making it laptops desigined to fail just as your warrenty runs out. you have to rights to self repar any items. the list is long on consumer hostiles polisyes they run

I mean the reason Siri is so bad compared to Cortana or Alexa is becauase Apple doesn't have the same amount of personal data on you.

that and they haven't been pumping money into natural speech engines and shit for years

well, not the same level of money

That's not privicy issues. Apple isn't a tech company they are a tech marketing firm.

@Shurik 1) no
2) it was technically only one tech company but it would be easy to argue in court that it would apply to the others
it was specifically regarding the fact that the NSA paid one of them (facebook I think?) for the equipment that let them collect traffic

Apple has never been a pioneer in any feild. They have taken an old idea and perfected it.

they show no contempt for it consumers. so why are you do trust they treat your private data any better

Apple's business model is polishing turds

and they are extremely good at it

^

apple turd ^

the next iphone

if only they could bring steve jobs back to life