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2018-06-29 04:25:17 UTC

soooooooo..

2018-06-29 04:25:33 UTC

fucks sake, how about that "anti-semitism -awareness-act" they introduced recently

2018-06-29 04:26:53 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/462111693359808512/pal.png

2018-06-29 04:27:28 UTC

giving fedgov claim to cut schools funding if a student group on campus "delegitimizes" "demonizes" or "holds to a double standard(thats fucking rich)" the state of Israel

2018-06-29 04:29:00 UTC

I'll look into it

2018-06-29 04:29:18 UTC

source link on that?

2018-06-29 04:30:28 UTC

there's an entire website devoted to foreign aid breakdown, but I don't appear to have it bookmarked

2018-06-29 04:32:48 UTC

reading through it it sounds like the money is given to Israel who on their word alone are supposed to give it to the paleys

2018-06-29 04:33:23 UTC

when it isn't subject to holds, reductions or delays for any number of fucking double-speak terms

2018-06-29 04:34:36 UTC

the beginning of the summary even begins with saying "yeah, we're trying to shut this shit off"

2018-06-29 04:38:49 UTC

alright then, we're supposedly aiding paleys........ while letting Israel steamroll over them and abusing our power in the bad-joke-gone-on-too-long UN

2018-06-29 04:39:12 UTC

who are entirely to blame for that situation to fucking begin with

2018-06-29 04:41:33 UTC

but again, would seriously not give as much of a fuck if we could just stop burning money over it

2018-06-29 04:42:55 UTC

versterven - 05/13/2018
and people who call bolivia an example of successful socialism now are also wrong

2018-06-29 04:42:56 UTC

this

2018-06-29 04:43:14 UTC

morales is a dictator

2018-06-29 04:43:17 UTC

I completely forgot bolivia even exists

2018-06-29 04:43:23 UTC

he silences his opposition by jailing journalists

2018-06-29 04:43:34 UTC

my uncle had to fight in court for a long time to avoid being jailed

2018-06-29 04:43:39 UTC

for working for previous governments

2018-06-29 04:43:40 UTC

nationalist ones

2018-06-29 04:44:36 UTC

anyway

2018-06-29 04:44:41 UTC

has anyone read The Green Bookโ„ข?

2018-06-29 04:45:15 UTC

gaddafi's libya was a better example of successful socialism than bolivia

2018-06-29 04:45:27 UTC

libya was richer in GDP per capita than the US

2018-06-29 04:45:29 UTC

for a time

2018-06-29 04:45:40 UTC

gaddafi's libya was also not a fucking sharia slave market

2018-06-29 04:45:50 UTC

it actually wasnt

2018-06-29 04:45:55 UTC

some islamic law was enforced there

2018-06-29 04:45:59 UTC

but burqas and stuff

2018-06-29 04:46:00 UTC

werent required

2018-06-29 04:46:29 UTC

people who argue against socialism conveniently ignore libya

2018-06-29 04:47:27 UTC

how much socialism are we talking? cuz the scandi bloks aren't doing that bad either

2018-06-29 04:47:36 UTC

>how much socialism

2018-06-29 04:47:37 UTC

no

2018-06-29 04:47:40 UTC

you're either socialist or you're not

2018-06-29 04:47:44 UTC

scandinavian countries arent socialist

2018-06-29 04:47:49 UTC

they are free market capitalist with social programs

2018-06-29 04:48:47 UTC

no, that's exactly it. I meant ratio of social policies

2018-06-29 04:49:57 UTC

gaddafi's libya was an alternative to communism and capitalism @Jokerfaic

2018-06-29 04:50:00 UTC

and was against both

2018-06-29 04:50:09 UTC

have you looked into the Third Universal Theory?

2018-06-29 04:50:27 UTC

I haven't heard of this.

2018-06-29 04:50:37 UTC

you should read the green book

2018-06-29 04:50:51 UTC

where does it fall on the creation or not of wealth?

2018-06-29 04:51:18 UTC

dont quite know, but housing is considered a human right

2018-06-29 04:51:24 UTC

neat

2018-06-29 04:51:24 UTC

here let me quote something from the book

2018-06-29 04:51:37 UTC

Housing is an essential need for both the individual and the family and should not be owned by others.

2018-06-29 04:51:52 UTC

basically

2018-06-29 04:51:57 UTC

you cant own a house

2018-06-29 04:52:00 UTC

unless you live in it

2018-06-29 04:52:01 UTC

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2018-06-29 04:52:02 UTC

permenantly

2018-06-29 04:52:21 UTC

but by that metric said individual or family should shoulder the responsibility of maintaining said housing, no?

2018-06-29 04:52:29 UTC

yeah

2018-06-29 04:52:36 UTC

why not

2018-06-29 04:52:45 UTC

and what about utilities?

2018-06-29 04:52:58 UTC

water, electricity, gas?

2018-06-29 04:53:06 UTC

all human rights, therefore free

2018-06-29 04:53:24 UTC

the things you had to pay for there were things that werent considered human rights

2018-06-29 04:53:43 UTC

except cars

2018-06-29 04:53:49 UTC

you had to buy them

2018-06-29 04:53:53 UTC

but the government subsidized 50% of the cost

2018-06-29 04:54:06 UTC

so, food, clothes maybe?

2018-06-29 04:54:13 UTC

i think you had to buy them

2018-06-29 04:54:21 UTC

Hmmmmmm

2018-06-29 04:54:32 UTC

you see

2018-06-29 04:54:35 UTC

you cant say something is a human right

2018-06-29 04:54:39 UTC

then charge money for it

2018-06-29 04:55:17 UTC

and what about the labour required to produce the houses and utilities?

2018-06-29 04:55:32 UTC

generating the power, cleaning the water

2018-06-29 04:55:39 UTC

just because its free doesnt mean the people who produced said things didnt profit

2018-06-29 04:55:45 UTC

the government subsidized them

2018-06-29 04:55:54 UTC

so basically they bought you the house

2018-06-29 04:56:23 UTC

and taxation would provide the government the means to subsidize, I'm imagining?

2018-06-29 04:56:32 UTC

no

2018-06-29 04:56:39 UTC

taxes were low or nonexistant in libya

2018-06-29 04:56:48 UTC

the government made money off exports

2018-06-29 04:56:56 UTC

ahh

2018-06-29 04:57:10 UTC

also never try to tell me "gaddafi got killed by his own people"

2018-06-29 04:57:16 UTC

most of the rebels were foreign mercenaries

2018-06-29 04:57:28 UTC

from chad, US, UK, egypt, sudan, and south africa

2018-06-29 04:57:42 UTC

yeah all I know is America judas'd him out of his deterrents

2018-06-29 04:57:50 UTC

yep

2018-06-29 04:58:12 UTC

and people wonder why Syria and NKorea don't want to disarm before us

2018-06-29 04:58:18 UTC

capitalists always call socialists out for saying "not real socialism" when they say "not real capitalism" when we bring up corporatism

2018-06-29 04:58:35 UTC

well... thing is that is capitalism

2018-06-29 04:58:42 UTC

but capitalism is a feral animal

2018-06-29 04:58:51 UTC

it needs to be caged, tamed, restricted

2018-06-29 04:59:06 UTC

kept in line

2018-06-29 04:59:33 UTC

to me the real socialists are the ones willing to defend their national identity

2018-06-29 04:59:44 UTC

the ones who will oppose the left-right spectrum

2018-06-29 04:59:47 UTC

and communism and capitalism

2018-06-29 04:59:51 UTC

libertarians on this matter are like eco terrorists that want to let the carnivorous land mammals out of their cages

2018-06-29 05:00:23 UTC

also never believe that socialism isnt human nature

2018-06-29 05:00:25 UTC

yeah I get the impression socialists and communists wouldn't get along

2018-06-29 05:00:41 UTC

do you think the fisher and the farmer grew and fished for himself?

2018-06-29 05:00:49 UTC

no, they did those things for the community

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