you cant say something is a human right

then charge money for it

and what about the labour required to produce the houses and utilities?

generating the power, cleaning the water

just because its free doesnt mean the people who produced said things didnt profit

the government subsidized them

so basically they bought you the house

and taxation would provide the government the means to subsidize, I'm imagining?

no

taxes were low or nonexistant in libya

the government made money off exports

ahh

also never try to tell me "gaddafi got killed by his own people"

most of the rebels were foreign mercenaries

from chad, US, UK, egypt, sudan, and south africa

yeah all I know is America judas'd him out of his deterrents

yep

and people wonder why Syria and NKorea don't want to disarm before us

capitalists always call socialists out for saying "not real socialism" when they say "not real capitalism" when we bring up corporatism

well... thing is that is capitalism

but capitalism is a feral animal

it needs to be caged, tamed, restricted

kept in line

to me the real socialists are the ones willing to defend their national identity

the ones who will oppose the left-right spectrum

and communism and capitalism

libertarians on this matter are like eco terrorists that want to let the carnivorous land mammals out of their cages

also never believe that socialism isnt human nature

yeah I get the impression socialists and communists wouldn't get along

do you think the fisher and the farmer grew and fished for himself?

no, they did those things for the community

>lives 10km from nearest neighbor
>farms for the “community”

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in villages

thing is, if automation of labour processes continues to its logical conclusion, socialism is literally the future.... unless fucking corporations aren't ousted by then

houses are relatively closeby

Are you actually Bolivian?

ya, galm, city-reliant farms aren't what he was talking about

my dad moved from bolivia to the US

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There are differences between micro and macro.

Socialism can work in a small village? Yeah, on a whole country? No

it worked in libya