I want to print this article and post it up around town.

Iunno, i guess because the focus lately has been trump and regressive aggression

It's sad. America has hardly the pride it used to. Nobody remembers the greatest generation.

I mean, so many years without large scale conflict has allowed the middle class to grow cancerous, which is what results in all these entitled know-it-alls

Im assuming

Because, people legit don't give a shit about it

People died

money trought the toilet

for

nothing

Basically this ^

It's yet another of the dozens "poorly defined Islamic bad guys in Middle East killed by other Islamists" story

There's been so many in the last decade

And there's always more popping up

Considering it's so far away, it's really hard to give a shit, even if it is a good thing

I guess its also because its been the norm for almost 20 years

Look

let's be adults here

if anyone wanted to end this shit

it would be over

track the money

end the money man

kill the insurgents

are you telling me that the most powerfull superpower in the world can't end a few dudes in the desert?

fuck that

There is too much "realpolitiks" on it

Tbh

I don't think you're qualified to say it's that simple in the least.

tbh

I'm not a General, I'm not a high-level intelligence operative, this shit is complex af.

Sure, I'd like to think it was simple to just put them down and that's that, but I think it's dangerous to make those assumptions.

Especially from a military tactical perspective.

As well as a global politics perspective

So... You're saying we need *more* drone strikes

Serious quesion? Idk, I don't know shit about strategy versus Islamic terrorists.

I'm not gonna make confident claims regarding how to efficiently take them out.

I'd defer my opinion to the experts on that one.

Nah, I know it's way more than just "bomb people". I was being a shitter

Lol

Ok

Suuuuure

Hm. Gumby seems to think he's pretty smart.

Ok

Lol

Wow

Gumby, you're just saying "lol ok suuuuure" without explaining anything.

Mhmm

Yep

Alright, then don't be surprised when you get shit for it.

Lmao

Lol

you're definitely pullin a Mittens right now bruh

but hey, you do you

Suuuure

I am very invested in this discussion and I'm not sure why

Not sure if Gumby is baiting or being a dumbass

I'd put my money on baiting for sure

Dude's like 90% bait

and I respect that

It's okay to be bait.

Nice b8 m8

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]

See it like this, before the Russians got involved, the idea was it would take 10 years to end isis.

After the Russians got involved it was done in what? A year or 2?

And that's why I say, how can the most powerful superpower in the world not end "a few dudes in the desert" but the Russians can curb stomp the fuckers much more efficiently?

Yeah, counter insurgency is not easy, but how can a smaller and weaker nation do it faster than US did?

There's money to be made in *fighting* terrorists, not in *defeating* terrorists.

There's money to be made in fighting racists, not in defeating racists.

SPLC money machine #1 goal

See Pakistan, got money to fight off Taliban in its territory, not to destroy it. They were happy to hide Bin Laden because USA kept paying them.

Conspriacy grows when the report said it was "gross incompetance"

Sorry to go off topic, but what's up with the whole laurier college thing? I've been out of the loop

Bascally TA showed a Jordan Peterson debate and someone filed a complaint. TA recorded the conversation shitshow ensures.

And they told the TA that Peterson was Hitler.

Interesting point Fulcrum. So why did Russia crush ISIS? Favoring political power over money?

Maybe Putin wants Syria to be Russia's Israel.

@Jek Porkins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ2QmaM7JrA

Main interviewee apologizing: http://complexsingularities.net/
Apology from University President and Vice Chancellor: https://www.wlu.ca/news/spotlights/2017/nov/apology-from-laurier-president-and-vice-chancellor.html

get ready for some seriously painful shit

Anyway, @Fulcrum010 to respond to your initial question about how it was that ISIS was defeated swiftly upon Russian involvement, you didn't figure in the election of Donald Trump, who ordered General Mattis to eliminiate ISIS using whatever level of troop involvement he deemed necessary. I'm not going to claim that was everything it took, but I'd imagine it was pretty significant.

I guess my own point here would somewhat contradict my earlier skepticism. Hmm... is it better to try not to underestimate the United States, or its opponents? I suppose it really depends on who is in charge in this case.

I guess, Russia did it because theit goal from the beginning was supporting Syria and ending isis.

While the main goal of usa wasn't, specially when you look at the whole "moderate rebel" narrative

I don't know everything about it, but one thing is easy to notice
After Russia got involved, the whole thing started to move way faster than before

Danielko had a good point

There is money to be made by fighting terrorists, not by defeating terrorists.

A lot of people are making some serious cash with this whole "war on terror" being it legally or illegally.

Fair enough. Power politics is a tricky game. Accurately determining specific motivations can be a hell of a task, and I have no doubt money is a central consideration. Perhaps it's even reasonable to say Russia or the US would only be willing to crush ISIS if they were condfident that they could make just as much if not more money without them. There could be other reasons, and perhaps that's even wrong. I'm really just speculating.

It could be that weakening ISIS helps these groups to cooperate with figures like Fuad Masum, president of Iraq, to profit off of oil.

But it's hard to say for me at least.

I guess, If we should read more about oil trades

I've seen some people saying they the reason this whole thing in Surya started, was because Assad didn't wanted a oil pipeline on his territory or something like it

A lot of conflict in the middle east seems to be over oil. It's really just a cover-up for aliens and lizardmen.

Lol, true

And

((((them))))

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((T H E M )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Well, I can't help but think at least some of that has more to do with ISIS overexanding too fast and making too many enemies to deal with at one time

welp, that comment now makes no sense

anyhoo, now I'll just post what I planned on posting when I popped in here instead of replying to messages that were from several pages ago

http://www.dailywire.com/news/23894/dramatic-video-show-north-korean-defector-shot-amanda-prestigiacomo

that's the parasite guy?

I believe so, yes

stronk nork army

can't feed troops

But they can shoot

also

although I'd seriously love to know wtf is going up