@franti you can't expect someone from the chair force to know shit

in the eu we dont have guns

🤷🏻

tell that to the czechs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Netherlands_Navy

That's cute

funny used to be the most powerful navy with the VOC

VOC was a private company\

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HMMM

https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/when-adjusted-for-inflation-its-highest-market-capitalization-would-be-worth-over-7-trillion-today-15654/

Wich was a state funded monopoly company

See British east indies

VOC was the only entity the gov allowed to exist

there was no competition

Think of what could have been accomplished with a bit of competition...

The AngloCucks vs The DutchCucks

which one is more cucked

There would be smaller

And less powerfull

Why have a corporate tax rate at all?

^

That's what I was saying

Since you would have 100s competing

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>shitty language vs police state
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If they give it to the CEO as a bonus it will be taxed at a higher rate anyways

if they give it to the investors as dividends it will be taxed that way as well

having a corporate rate is dumb

@Deleted User Not If you abolish the divident tax

Income taxes are just a way for the gov't to leech more money out of the people.

Everyone purchases stuff

Having a low corporate or nonexistent tax rate is important in a more globalized economy

A race to the bottom

It drives the cost of doing business in your country down

centre right party dutchcucks that says fuck poor people and small businesses lets suck corporate dick and destroy democracy vs AngloCucks tea Cunts that have a police state that say you gotta loicense for telling the truth and arrest people who speak the truth for racism and protects pedophiles

Hell yeah, the lowest tax rate gets the most business

Which in turn drives prices down

@Deleted User Chedder > Gouda

London knife attacks vs amsterdam degenerate streetfilth @Deleted User

@Deleted User
Indian anglo food vs Indomie

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@Deleted User Tell me
Why sould I live under the boot of a corporation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Dutch_Wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch%E2%80%93Venezuelan_crisis_of_1908

atleast the dutch fucked the venezuela

@franti Because corporations will compete for the honor of stepping on you, with the best boot available

How does having a low corporate tax rate equal living under the boot of a corporation? @franti

That is a dumb argument

@Deleted User It creates a race to the bottom

I will pay the same

Bottom of what?

the barrel

We need regulation no regulation on corporations is a dumb idea

What does a race to the bottom even mean?

profit for all service to none

And that does not equal living under the boot of a corporation

Privetise profit socialise losses

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I am arguing for a low corporate tax rate nothing else right now

you really think if there was no regulation at all. companies wouldnt fuck up the earth. and low tax for corporations might be a good idea but you gotta do the same for small businesses

@Deleted User Low or abolishing it?

And what % would be low in your eyes

@Deleted User You think companies *want* to look like bad guys?

you think companies care???

they would start their own military if they had the chance

If you're fucking up the environment, then by proxy you're fucking up someone elses property, yes? @Deleted User

look at africa under chinese occupation

It would be taxed in any other way better @franti

Income tax

dividend tax

@Fitzydog in some countries businesses like shell are lliteralllyulaletl destroying some peoples property YES

And who's allowing that to happen without a lawsuit?

The government.

the government

yes

so the people get fcked no matter what

democracy in the word for DEMOS doesnt seem like democracy

@Fitzydog lmao
As If these corps dont already have the best lawyers that could stall it for years

Did you know that the first environmental lawsuit against a factory was by an apple orchard owner in England who sued a local factory for air pollution in the 1800s?

The local govt threw it out, because the factory was "too important"

Elon Musk is getting fcked by corporate shills at the moment

its a pure power grab

Elon Musk mooches off the US govt subsidies

well what do you expect

You mean loans he payed back?

windmills generate subsidy

tell me

Who bailed out the banks without them ever paying it back?

in the netherlands we have farmers that allow windmills which provide no shit of energy but the get subsidies for it

ICELAND DID DO RIGHT

@franti The gov't?

ICELAND is Woke remember the financial crisis

I wish we pulled that on US banks

@Fitzydog the tax payer

Yeah, retarded move

too big too fail

lol my ass. Too big to fail, too big to exist

good argument too big too fail really good argument

Are you now making an argument for trust busting?

@Fitzydog i agree its the same argument the fkg dutchcuck politicians use

I'm making an argument for completely hands off

They were too big to fail, because they were propped up by the gov't

Privatise war

All wars are private wars

It's the nations that are dragged in later on

afghanistan is a private war

@Fitzydog Open borders

Fuck you lol

opium https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-war-is-worth-waging-afghanistan-s-vast-reserves-of-minerals-and-natural-gas/19769

Open house DOORS NOW

This is what you argue for

We should let in the RAPIST and BURGLARS into our homes

If no state no border protection

No, the gov't has one purpose only: Border and property protection

No state no protection from rape

that implies that rape is *bad*

Minarchy NOW

The state doesn't protect you from rape

That would require for you to pay taxes

Pinochet minarchy

you want rape protection than you need to pay your taxes

corporate dream world.

@franti I already said I'm okay with sales and use taxes. The things that get used the most, get the most funding

Open the borders
We need better competition
Why would you limit the labour pool?

cant help you we dont care your son is murdered you havent payed your revenge honor rape tax

Dont you want cheaper things

?

Eliminate welfare, and minimum wage, *then* we can talk about 'open borders'. At that point, there'd be no reason for people to migrate north.

Taxing is Important even the fkg degenerate romans, persians, muslim world, indian world and greeks understand this

even medieval lords understand this

@Deleted User Romans had less than 1% tax, that could be paid with 1 days wages

1 day, out of a year

@Fitzydog there would be still immigrants coming to the north cause our countries are less shitty

I am *not* advocating for open borders.

for them the netherlands is like a liberal utopia.. to us its just a good well maintained country under water with a douche gay government

I advocate for open house doors

You kinda need the gov for the whole keeping the sea at bay thing @Deleted User

luckily the are doing a fine job in watermanagment

tap water is still coming

Didn't private farmers pump water out of their fields before the gov't did?

they do still now

I am taking about making Zeeland a peninsula and Flevoland

why is Flevoland the best land?

Flevoland would have been a too big undertaking for pwivae farmers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_board_(Netherlands)

This is why Europe is forever cucked, IMO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afsluitdijk

"I can't imagine a world without an authority to tell me what to do."

@Fitzydog well you think the romans would have been the greatest civilization without authority?

you think the USA would be the most powerful without authority @Fitzydog

I don't think people could have figured out how to do it during Roman times

@Fitzydog I want to be subjegated by a foreign power
t. an-cap

they still dont

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory

This is socialist ideology in a nutshell

people still dont know how to figure shit out. most people dont know how to protect the netherlands from the water

look at new orleans @Fitzydog

"I have no faith in the average person to have total control and liberty, as well as personal responsibility for their own lives"

@Fitzydog looks at the opiod epidemic
Yea I dont

Eliminate the welfare state, then see what happens

People die?

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well that wouldnt be too bad

i actually support that

Okay, I guess civilization started in 1960 then

welfare is needed for people without the ability to survive otherwise they can get fcked if they are able but dont want to they can get fcked

no more BS on Oh im such a victim im such pity i dont wanna work

get work or go FCKED

That's the churches job, paid for via voluntary donations from the community. Don't force me to pay for that shit, that's for my conscious to decide.

@Fitzydog The Swedes left their old to die in the forrest in winter before welfare because they were a drain

swedes were never morally correct

how many churches do you think the netherlands have @Fitzydog

the only good thing sweden has done is societal suicide

@Deleted User 🤷🏻 idk, how many did you have before you put them out of use from monopolizing the welfare/charity system with your gov't?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Sweden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Netherlands

Private Charity is enough

lol

50% of the population is atheist in the netherlands no one is gonna pay for charity lmao

atheist dont have a moral compass

Isn't it odd how religiosity has dropped at the exact same time welfare has increased?

why do you it's called `going dutch`?

the dutch are cheap bastads

Welfare was an idea introduced by HITLER

IF you support welfare You are literally hitler

The social manipulators you call politicians have systematically undercut your social safety net that developed naturally from community involvement, and replaced it with a gov't program to vampiristically drain people's wallets for their own beenfit

It's a scam. A cash-cow

this is actually a quote from hitler in one of his speeches LMAO. Seems martin luther king endorses hitler

Looks at victorian England

Sure

People were only dropping dead from drinking contaminated water

lol are you using the same example Marx did for his nonsense?

I guess we'll just keep on with this hamster wheel

Like I said, only YOU can uncuck yourselves from your socialist nightmare in Europe

It's like that guy with a stick on the bicycle meme lol

@Fitzydog You literaly have social security

Yeah, I don't expect it to last the decade

Well as part of the bourgeoisie i am still content and happy. and btw social things doesnt mean socialist

I have a 401K as well. *That I invested in privately.*

401K that the bank are gambling with

Just needs another stock market crash

Yeah? Call it what you will, it's more secure and legitimate than phantom numbers in an empty account we call 'social security'

you know you can lose parts of your money as i assume you spread across several banks

https://twitter.com/BrokeHrtLiberal/status/1033490581979156480?s=19

Social security in the US is already bankrupt. We keep inflating it with money from elsewhere until we give up

@Fitzydog 401K to wich the gov gives you and your employer tax cuts?
hmmm

no?

Well, not my employer

You get a tax deduction from it

Yeah, I do.

Of course I'm going to take advantage of that

@Fitzydog https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-inventor-of-the-401k-says-he-created-a-monster-2016-05-16

Help me, I'm stuck in the middle of a conversation about how representation matters and how the white backlash to diversity is just whites moaning about not being at the centre of the universe anymore.

It really has very little to do with taxes in the end. It would exist regardless of deductions

how do you need help with such a easy debate

@RoyHavenstone | Extra just speak the truth non stop drop fkg hammer loads of honesty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRbTussbg9w

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https://youtu.be/iICsiArWmHI

This is what defending pedophiles does to you

I will always point out the netherlands is one of the few countries that allow infanticide

Maybe its pedophiles, maybe its the Islamic Cuckoldry, most likely both.

But he openly said that about pedophiles, so he won't last long. Least benedict tried to fix it silently.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/av/embed/p06jfx8s/45276831

Fucking bbc site

Um your pic is fake btw

Seems like a rather large crowd

He does seem to have the popemobile open on the sides and back tho

<@&372567196838395904> R.I.P John McCain

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/365351-mccain-war-hero-and-senate-giant-dies

was that the Brain cancer?

LMAO dis nigga got brain cancer

boop yourself upside your head, douche

brain tumor man

hey bighead

Lmao dis nigga got brain cancer

dis nigga eating beans

Hillary is next mark my words

<:think_madpepe:378717098630971395> Damn normies

Dont be coming to me with your Phoney Balone John McCains, there can BE ONLY 1 John McCain

https://youtu.be/oB5nIxkqt-E?t=1m41s

whats so special about him

who is he

watch the vid

and all will be explained

I Only know him through tumor memes

oh ok

Mcain is the big boi in the senate

One might just say

***HE IS THE SENATE***