for them the netherlands is like a liberal utopia.. to us its just a good well maintained country under water with a douche gay government

I advocate for open house doors

You kinda need the gov for the whole keeping the sea at bay thing @Deleted User

luckily the are doing a fine job in watermanagment

tap water is still coming

Didn't private farmers pump water out of their fields before the gov't did?

they do still now

I am taking about making Zeeland a peninsula and Flevoland

why is Flevoland the best land?

Flevoland would have been a too big undertaking for pwivae farmers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_board_(Netherlands)

This is why Europe is forever cucked, IMO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afsluitdijk

"I can't imagine a world without an authority to tell me what to do."

@Fitzydog well you think the romans would have been the greatest civilization without authority?

you think the USA would be the most powerful without authority @Fitzydog

I don't think people could have figured out how to do it during Roman times

@Fitzydog I want to be subjegated by a foreign power
t. an-cap

they still dont

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory

This is socialist ideology in a nutshell

people still dont know how to figure shit out. most people dont know how to protect the netherlands from the water

look at new orleans @Fitzydog

"I have no faith in the average person to have total control and liberty, as well as personal responsibility for their own lives"

@Fitzydog looks at the opiod epidemic
Yea I dont

Eliminate the welfare state, then see what happens

People die?

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well that wouldnt be too bad

i actually support that

Okay, I guess civilization started in 1960 then

welfare is needed for people without the ability to survive otherwise they can get fcked if they are able but dont want to they can get fcked

no more BS on Oh im such a victim im such pity i dont wanna work

get work or go FCKED

That's the churches job, paid for via voluntary donations from the community. Don't force me to pay for that shit, that's for my conscious to decide.

@Fitzydog The Swedes left their old to die in the forrest in winter before welfare because they were a drain

swedes were never morally correct

how many churches do you think the netherlands have @Fitzydog

the only good thing sweden has done is societal suicide

@Deleted User 🤷🏻 idk, how many did you have before you put them out of use from monopolizing the welfare/charity system with your gov't?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Sweden