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2018-03-22 02:46:43 UTC

Thanks, Luigi

2018-03-22 02:46:58 UTC

With goatee?

2018-03-22 02:47:04 UTC

That's horrifying

2018-03-22 02:47:13 UTC

Free trade equals economic slavery?

2018-03-22 02:49:03 UTC

Where is the logic in that?

2018-03-22 02:49:23 UTC

Are you willing to listen to our explanations?

2018-03-22 02:49:38 UTC

... I like the part where you were given reasoning to start out with, and then discarded the reasoning in order to substitute your strawman, and then asked where the reasoning is

2018-03-22 02:49:46 UTC

that's quite impressive, really

2018-03-22 02:49:47 UTC

Ya

2018-03-22 02:50:10 UTC

I'm just taking what you said @zahlman

2018-03-22 02:50:42 UTC

er, which part, I think you're getting people mixed up now

2018-03-22 02:50:43 UTC

is this how it works?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/426211094059548673/image.jpg

2018-03-22 02:51:16 UTC

gimme a sec

2018-03-22 02:54:14 UTC

For me, "economic freedom" on a global scale means that all nations can trade with each other with little to no restrictions. This means that regional differences in prices are esentially meaningless in such a large market, and so nations are essentially locked in to producing whatever creates the greatest GDP. So a nation with lots of fertile land is going to produce cash crops to sell on the international market and use the profits to buy food from somewhere else. If a nation did anything less than maximize their GDP, they would be outcompeted by other nations in the market and subjugated by economic means

2018-03-22 02:55:28 UTC

Essentially, nations are locked into producing certain things by the current prices of the market and general economic pressure

2018-03-22 02:55:39 UTC

I see

2018-03-22 02:56:36 UTC

they don't want to have to compete with others

2018-03-22 02:56:40 UTC

I get that the global economy produces the most economically efficient solutions on a global scale via market pressure, but it also creates extremely unbalanced systems that border on global monopolies

2018-03-22 02:57:03 UTC

rather stay primitive & backwards

2018-03-22 02:57:04 UTC

> produces the most economically efficient solutions

not even necessarily this, considering the overhead of transportation

2018-03-22 02:57:23 UTC

like Islam

2018-03-22 02:57:51 UTC

transporting goods also has environmental consequences

2018-03-22 02:58:03 UTC

At the end of this, every nation produces exactly one product to sell on the market, and essentially holds a gun to the head of the world. If Neo-USA stops producing the worlds supply of planes, nobody has planes, thusly everyone is enslaved to the USA. And everyone is enslaved to each other via resource production

2018-03-22 02:58:18 UTC

@zahlman That's why I said "economically" efficient.

2018-03-22 02:58:27 UTC

They're not resource efficient by any means

2018-03-22 02:58:34 UTC

makes sense

2018-03-22 02:59:09 UTC

So I'm not denying the benefits of globalization, but there are downsides to it.

2018-03-22 03:00:06 UTC

As a classical liberal, you should watch these.

2018-03-22 03:03:01 UTC

**@Pepe** was cleansed from the server.

2018-03-22 03:05:08 UTC

Ok, so that first one, everything they said was technically correct

2018-03-22 03:05:25 UTC

But costs ARE passed on to other nations via externalities

2018-03-22 03:06:18 UTC

Could be environmental costs from production, health costs from pollution, whatever, because the global economy is global, the costs and benefits are going to be spread around

2018-03-22 03:06:29 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/426215063435739141/image.png

2018-03-22 03:06:55 UTC

And obviously less powerful nations, economic or otherwise, have less means available to protect themselves from those negative consequences

2018-03-22 03:07:05 UTC

Can't get enough of that sweet sweet division

2018-03-22 03:07:26 UTC

@Edgy_Username The anti-white crowd has been out in force on twitter

2018-03-22 03:07:42 UTC

Bringing out the old "whites are domestic terrorists" thing again

2018-03-22 03:08:05 UTC

The whole internets a shithole the now

2018-03-22 03:08:34 UTC

Folk on Reddit saying that free speech should be limited and all tha anti-White stuff on Twitter

2018-03-22 03:09:00 UTC

Doesn't that mean Trump is successfully stopping Muslim terrorists from killing?

2018-03-22 03:09:31 UTC

Blame the leftists

2018-03-22 03:09:41 UTC

We just want to be white in peace

2018-03-22 03:09:47 UTC

Checkmatey democrats

2018-03-22 03:11:06 UTC

At this point, I think universal sufferage is incompatible with America

2018-03-22 03:11:22 UTC

It's not functioning so good with so many fucking voices voting in opposite directions

2018-03-22 03:12:06 UTC

*suffrage

2018-03-22 03:12:16 UTC

You realize there are more terrorist acts committed by whites than any other in America right?

2018-03-22 03:12:43 UTC

Which means he's stopping the radical Islamic terrorists from attacking.

2018-03-22 03:13:01 UTC

Two scoops, two genders, two terms, baby.

2018-03-22 03:13:14 UTC

This is what gets underreported

2018-03-22 03:13:41 UTC

How do you recommend we fix that then?

2018-03-22 03:14:05 UTC

Whites are the majority of the population, so nothing's out of the ordinary there, statistically.

2018-03-22 03:14:14 UTC

He probably wants equality of terrorists.

2018-03-22 03:14:19 UTC

Have a quota.

2018-03-22 03:14:47 UTC

Let's make sure half of terrorists are black, half are arabic, half are asian, half are mexicans....

2018-03-22 03:15:39 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/426217369430654989/ExtremistGraph1_2.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/426217370013532175/ExtremistGraph2_1.jpg

2018-03-22 03:16:50 UTC

So, even that bottom graph says that islam did more than everyone else combined

2018-03-22 03:17:09 UTC

Obviously a lot of people died on 9/11

2018-03-22 03:18:03 UTC

Is this one of those graphs that conveniently starts after 9/11?

2018-03-22 03:18:43 UTC

Wasn't that politifact article debunked because they left out some incidents to make their case?

2018-03-22 03:18:49 UTC

his point is that it's a little hypocritical that we have massive media coverage and patriot acts dedicated to one group but the other is generally unspoken, and things like "both sides" probably/definitely wouldn't ever be said about muslim terrorists

2018-03-22 03:18:52 UTC

im pretty sure that the US has the least restrictions on trade than any other nation

2018-03-22 03:19:05 UTC

so the idea that by doing tariffs we're not participating

2018-03-22 03:19:09 UTC

is a bit silly

2018-03-22 03:19:12 UTC

Or from the fallout of it

2018-03-22 03:19:54 UTC

>62 people in U.S. killed by Islamic terrorists for every one killed by right-wing extremists

2018-03-22 03:20:15 UTC

i think i'd rather crucify myself than read a college fix article about a professor with debunk written in all caps

2018-03-22 03:21:56 UTC

however i did anyway....

2018-03-22 03:22:11 UTC

>Is this one of those graphs that conveniently starts after 9/11?

yes, it says so explicitly at the top

2018-03-22 03:22:13 UTC

Until the Orlando nightclub shooting, "the number of deaths caused by far-right-wing attacks outnumbered those caused by jihadism-related attacks," Ford said.

2018-03-22 03:22:13 UTC

@DanielKO They've also included some oddball incidents as "far-right"

2018-03-22 03:22:23 UTC

>โ€œTogether, Muhammad and Malvo killed at least ten people. Yet [the foundation] does not list their victims among those under the category of โ€˜violent jihadist attacks.'โ€

2018-03-22 03:22:30 UTC

The "2003 Salinas, Calif. Abudction, Torture, and Murder" was two hispanics killing a bisexual

2018-03-22 03:22:47 UTC

also >implying radial islam isn't "far-right"

2018-03-22 03:22:55 UTC

Dunno how that's similar to the actual skinheads they've cited selewhere

2018-03-22 03:23:00 UTC

"The terrorist threat in the United States is almost entirely homegrown, as no foreign terrorist organization has successfully directed and orchestrated an attack in the United States since 9/11,"

2018-03-22 03:23:18 UTC

Yeah, it only took ONE incident to change that balance

2018-03-22 03:23:18 UTC

per capita islamic terrorism is probably worse

2018-03-22 03:23:33 UTC

```โ€œIf you include the death totals from 9/11 in such a calculation, then there have been around 62 people killed in the United States by Islamic extremists for every one American killed by a right wing terrorist,โ€ Holt stated in his analysis.```
well duh
```Secondly, it did not factor in extraordinary security measures, such as the Patriot Act and the Holtcreation of Homeland Security, put in place after 9/11 that prevented a large number of attempted attacks by Islamic terrorists on American soil.```
i'm not sure if the best point he could've made here is imply that homeland security is completely incompetent at stopping right-wing terrorism

2018-03-22 03:24:11 UTC

They have the same goals as white nationalists

2018-03-22 03:24:15 UTC

ONE islamic terrorist killed 49 people in a single incident, but it took 14 years for "far right" "terrorism" to approach the same figure

2018-03-22 03:24:34 UTC

And I'm supposed to consider Islamic terrorism LESS of a threat?

2018-03-22 03:24:39 UTC

What a surprise, after a massive Islamic terrorism attack, strict defense policies are put into place to try to stop more Islamic terrorism attacks. This retard thinks that, since fewer attacks happened after that, it means that Islamic terrorists aren't a threat.

2018-03-22 03:24:41 UTC

They've killed more people in less incidents

2018-03-22 03:24:44 UTC

Dude, it's exactly the opposite.

2018-03-22 03:24:54 UTC

Except the TSA has never prevented anything

2018-03-22 03:25:01 UTC

Underwear bomber

2018-03-22 03:25:08 UTC

Not one to defend TSA, but still.

2018-03-22 03:25:27 UTC

Gotta give it to em you do something you do it right

2018-03-22 03:25:33 UTC

Their value is also mostly deterrence, rather than active prevention

2018-03-22 03:25:56 UTC

The TSA will always end up killing more people than it will ever save

2018-03-22 03:26:02 UTC

@Edgy_Username Exactly, am I supposed to consider a bunch on unrelated skinheads committing armed robbery a serious national threat?

2018-03-22 03:26:14 UTC

Know why?

2018-03-22 03:26:15 UTC

@Deleted User Who the fuck has the TSA ever killed?

2018-03-22 03:26:35 UTC

the entire point is that you wouldn't find out if they did prevent something from happening

2018-03-22 03:26:40 UTC

@banestrum his fee fees

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