RUSSIANS FAILED AT THAT

MUCH AS THEY FAIL AT HOME REPAIR

AND REPORTING FIRES

Yes, Russians were initially conquered by Mongols

INDEED

AND STILL ARE

hence "driving off" implying actions that subsequently took place

THEY FAILED TO RESIST THE INVASION

driving off Mongols meaning getting liberated from them

THROUGH DISORGANIZATION AND GREED

no shit

WE AGREE

NOW WHAT ABOUT THE HOME REPAIR?

through dissorganiation and greed ""

more germanic science

WHAT IS IT ABOUT A RUSSIAN THAT CANNOT REPAIR A GARAGE?

OR REPAINT A CURB?

WHY DO WE NOT SIMPLY TEACH THEM SPANISH OR URDU?

SINCE EVEN THE MEXICANS HAVE WORKING GARAGE DOORS?

"RUSSIA ALLIED WITH THE CHINESE" are you speaking about soviet era

now

YES AND PREVIOUS FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS AND TREATIES

THEY HAVE BEEN ALLIES, OR AT LEAST TACIT ALLIES, FOR A LONG TIME

Give me a break with bolshevik internatonalism

MAINLY BECAUSE RUSSIANS ARE 1/4 ASIAN

"WHY DO WE NOT SIMPLY TEACH THEM SPANISH OR URDU?
SINCE EVEN THE MEXICANS HAVE WORKING GARAGE DOORS?" is this supposed to provoke me to something

AND WHAT ABOUT THE GARAGES?

or just be humorous

WHY CAN THEY NOT PAINT A GARAGE, OR REPLACE ROTTEN BOARDS?

WHY ARE ALL OF THEIR BUSINESSES NOT REPORTING TAXES?

IT IS DIRECT EXPERIENCE

RUSSIANS DO NOT REPAIR GARAGES

Is this how they qualify "rednecks" in USA

RAIN FALLS, GARAGE FALLS DOWN

NO, REDNECK IS AN ETHNIC CATEGORY

IN THE SOUTH, WASPs = ELITES

SCOTS-IRISH = MIDDLE CLASS

you are drifting away from your incompetence in matters of history

IRISH = REDNECKS

by amusing yourself, me and others here

with anecdotes from American Empire

NO, I AM RELATING DIRECT EXPERIENCE

RUSSIANS DO NOT REPAIR GARAGES

"OH, IT FELL DOWN." SHRUG

No, you are avoiding dealing with your own theories

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MY OWN THEORIES

Yes you have, they are incorrect

HAIL SATAN

I rest my case

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO REST

HAVING OFFERED NO REFUTATION

IN THE MEANTIME, THE HISTORY IS CLEAR

RUSSIANS HAVE DIVIDED IDENTITY

THUS THEIR NATIONALISM IS EXTERNAL NOT INTERNAL

THUS FAILURE IS INBOUND

I HOPE NOT, AS EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NIGGERS I HOPE THERE ARE ALWAYS RUSSIANS

Brett how am I with nothing to offer

BUT THIS IS MY DIAGNOSIS

AND IN TIME

I WILL BE PROVEN RIGHT

YOU MAY HAVE TO BE PATIENT HOWEVER

AS USUAL

You have still not provided evidence for your outrageous claims that Russia was founded by "runaway german peasants who took mongol wives"

I DO NOT HAVE IT AT HAND

BUT HAVE WRITTEN/POSTED ABOUT IT BEFORE

you didnt provide evidence that Russian sense of identity is external, temporary and related to citizenship

ALTHOUGH I DO NOT KNOW WHERE

I ARGUE EXTERNAL ONLY

BECAUSE INTERNALLY, THEY ARE MISCEGENATED

you did not provide evidence that Russians didnt unite to drive away Mongols

because they quite obviously did

SEE THE BOOK I CITED

seen

see links that iposted

IT IS ALSO NOT HISTORICALLY CONTROVERSIAL

THIS IS ACKNOWLEDGED WIDELY

THE MONGOLS WERE STOPPED IN FRANCE

NOT RUSSIA

BUT ENTERED THROUGH RUSSIA

WHICH IS WHY WESTERN EUROPEANS

TREAT RUSSIANS AS NIGGERS

THAT AND THE GARAGE THING

WHY NO PAINT?

NO GREASE ON THE DOOR HINGES?

Mongols conquered many nations

WHY MUST THEY FILL IT WITH BOXES?

THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT NEED ANSWERS

Are Germans not Germans due to teir conquests by other people ?

Are Polish not Poles ?

GERMANS ARE GERMANS BECAUSE THEY ARE GERMANS

Yes, go more circular

POLES ARE STRUGGLING WITH OWN MIXED ETHNIC IDENTITY

GENETICS IS CIRCULAR? OK

In whose dreams ?

Polish are Poles for 1000 years

Actually more

They never had any drifts about it

SEEMS A STRETCH

Whatsoever

yeah

is that another of your informed qualifications

Poland is Poland and Poles are Poles FIRMLY since 9th century

That predates "Germans" for about 100-200 years

Who were still Franks, Saxons, Burgundians etc

Your statemetns vary from humorous, to provincial all the way to downright uninformed

GERMANS IS A GROUPING OF TRIBES

THE POLISH GENETICS CHANGED

WITNESS THE MIXTURE OF BALTID, SLAVIC AND PRUSSIAN DNA

LET US ARGUE THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT

RUSSIANS ARE NOT EUROPEAN

WASPS in America are not European

same qualification

but mind you

i dont necessarily disagree with that

after all, a sense of distance towards well, the distant

is certainly something positive

hence Europan sense of distance

towards Russia

is natural

However, our initial debate was slightly different, actualy, vastly

and concerned formative aspects of Russian Empire and it's place within old Europe

And there i highly disagreed with your view

"THE POLISH GENETICS CHANGED" The whatever that is supposed to mean

Certifie fact is

Poles have firmly estalished sense of identity since at least 9th century

that CANNOT be said of WASPs in America, in fact, of majority of European nations

Germans, French, Italians, Danes

POLES HAVE MIXED GENETICS

THIS IS NOT IN DISPUTE

WASPs IN AMERICA ARE WESTERN EUROPEAN

RUSSIA HAS NO PLACE IN EUROPE

IT IS EURASIAN

BY CHOICE

IDENTITY IS ETHNIC

AND MIXED-ETHNIC PEOPLE HAVE AN UNCERTAIN IDENTITY

ITALIANS ARE SOUTHERN EUROPEANS, CLUSTERING WITH THE IRISH

DANES, GERMANS AND SOME FRENCH ARE WESTERN

MANY FRENCH HOWEVER ARE SOUTHERN

RUSSIANS ARE EURASIANS AND HAVE NEVER CHOSEN A CLEAR DIRECTION TOWARD EUROPE OR ASIA

THE FUTURE WILL DETERMINE WHO THEY ARE

BUT

COMING FROM A FRAGMENTED PAST

THEY WILL ALSO FRAGMENT

AND NEVER

EVER

EVER

FIX THE GARAGE.

how did you grow up with russians

apples for thee, pears for me

for you ethnic identity is defining, for me, a broad regional

come on Brett

even Hitler didnt dispute that Germans are of mixed origin

how many German noblemen were of

Slavic origin

what about wends

sorbs

poles in germany

do you know how deep in german territory cape of Arkona was

even the word "Germany" is merly an english term

what about alpine, nordic germans

The German word "Deutsche"

is entirely different connotation

How old is "Deutsche" identity ?

or French ?

"POLES HAVE MIXED GENETICS" so do Germans, therefore

Point is, Polish identity is older than "Deutsche" identity

how can that be

germans were in germany at the times of greeks and roman and probably long before

duh

slavs are a recent incursion

Germans do not call them self Germans

but Deutsche

in german

we're speaking english

as ar as "germanic' is concerned, Belgians are also Germanic, and so are French

and Swiss

ancient Germans (Teutons, Marcomanii, Tigurini, Nervi, Belgae)

are not *directly* related to contemporary Germans

and even less they have connection to contemporary German (Deutch) identity

even though of course, they are racially close since they were Indo-Europeans who lived in Western Europe prior to another invasion of Indo-Europeans (Goths, Slavs, etc....)

goths were germans

the true heirs of poland

anyway you think modern germans are not direct descendants of ancient germans, don't see any evidence for that

some other tribes have been assimilated

into germanity

The German term Deutschland, originally diutisciu land ("the German lands") is derived from deutsch (cf. dutch), *descended from Old High German diutisc "popular" (i.e. belonging to the diot or diota "people"), originally used to distinguish the language of the common people from Latin and its Romance descendants*

so much about it

The Germans themselves I should regard as aboriginal, and not mixed at all with other races through immigration or intercourse.

Tacitus

good now add everything that happened after Tacitus

they spread, and some other tribes may have been assimilated

it doesn't follow that modern germans aren't their direct descendants

will catch up with you later

you are not wrong at all

SWISS ARE IN THREE GROUPS

GERMANIC, FRENCH AND ITALIAN

but are missing the point of germans being "mixed"

FRENCH WAS FRANKISH TRIBES PLUS NATIVES

on a national level

WHO WERE SOLUTREANS OR SOMETHING LIKE IT

REMEMBER ALL OF EUROPE IS FORMED FROM TWO POPULATIONS

A WANDERING PRE-HALSTATT TYPE

AND A NORTHERN MIDDLE EASTERN FARMING TYPE

THEN TO THAT ADD ASIATICS FOR SLAVS

ASSUMING YOU USE ONLY THE PEASANT CLASS

@diversity_is_racism what do you mean you grew up with russians

AND SEMITICS TO SOUTHERNS

WHO WERE MORE HIGHER CASTE THAN LOW

INTERESTING THING ABOUT WOPS

@devolved I GREW UP IN A PART OF TEXAS THAT WAS SETTLED EVENTUALLY BY RUSSIANS

ORIGINALLY GERMAN

weird

THEN IN CAME VIETNAMESE AND NEGROES

THEY FOUGHT

THEN IN CAME RUSSIANS

wops are their own thing

NO ONE WANTED TO DEAL WITH THE RUSSIANS

YES

WOPS ARE TRAGIC

ANYWAY

RUSSIANS CAME IN AND STOPPED FIXING GARAGES

WE WERE ALL GLAD WHEN THEY WERE REPLACED BY MEXICANS

there is a significant russian population in san francisco

WHO ARE BASICALLY VIETNAMESE

YES

weird people who kept to themselves

AND THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT FAIL IT

i didnt like them either

WHEN GIVEN MONEY AND POWER

THEY ARE DIFFERENT

AND CRIMINAL

BASICALLY

EVERYTHING WNs SAY ABOUT NEGROES

IS TRUE OF RUSSIANS

LIKE GYPSIES

PRONE TO PETTY THEFT, COOKING THE BOOKS, ETC.

THEIR WOMEN ARE INHERENTLY LICENTIOUS

THEY CAN BE QUITE FRIENDLY, FUNNY, INTERESTING

LIKE THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN

BUT IN CHARACTER

THEY ARE DEGRADED

IN A WAY THAT EVEN AFRICANS DO NOT HAVE

things i learned growing up in san francisco: russians and irish are something very different

funny thing about wops is that they actually assimilate better than irish and russians

the ones that aren't idiot peasants or criminals

or swarthy jews in disguise

WOPS ARE STILL WESTERN IN INTENT

BUT OFTEN DO NOT GET IT RIGHT

ALSO THERE IS HIGH VARIATION AMONG THEM

Hey