Message from @devolved

Discord ID: 302132151518887937


2017-04-13 17:21:32 UTC  

for you ethnic identity is defining, for me, a broad regional

2017-04-13 17:21:34 UTC  

come on Brett

2017-04-13 17:21:45 UTC  

even Hitler didnt dispute that Germans are of mixed origin

2017-04-13 17:21:51 UTC  

how many German noblemen were of

2017-04-13 17:22:14 UTC  

Slavic origin

2017-04-13 17:22:24 UTC  

what about wends

2017-04-13 17:22:25 UTC  

sorbs

2017-04-13 17:22:28 UTC  

poles in germany

2017-04-13 17:22:39 UTC  

do you know how deep in german territory cape of Arkona was

2017-04-13 17:22:48 UTC  

even the word "Germany" is merly an english term

2017-04-13 17:23:25 UTC  

what about alpine, nordic germans

2017-04-13 17:23:32 UTC  

The German word "Deutsche"

2017-04-13 17:23:39 UTC  

is entirely different connotation

2017-04-13 17:23:45 UTC  

How old is "Deutsche" identity ?

2017-04-13 17:23:52 UTC  

or French ?

2017-04-13 17:24:04 UTC  

"POLES HAVE MIXED GENETICS" so do Germans, therefore

2017-04-13 17:24:23 UTC  

Point is, Polish identity is older than "Deutsche" identity

2017-04-13 17:24:57 UTC  

how can that be

2017-04-13 17:25:11 UTC  

germans were in germany at the times of greeks and roman and probably long before

2017-04-13 17:25:15 UTC  

duh

2017-04-13 17:25:18 UTC  

slavs are a recent incursion

2017-04-13 17:25:21 UTC  

Germans do not call them self Germans

2017-04-13 17:25:24 UTC  

but Deutsche

2017-04-13 17:25:31 UTC  

in german

2017-04-13 17:25:35 UTC  

we're speaking english

2017-04-13 17:25:39 UTC  

as ar as "germanic' is concerned, Belgians are also Germanic, and so are French

2017-04-13 17:25:46 UTC  

and Swiss

2017-04-13 17:26:02 UTC  

ancient Germans (Teutons, Marcomanii, Tigurini, Nervi, Belgae)

2017-04-13 17:26:14 UTC  

are not *directly* related to contemporary Germans

2017-04-13 17:26:30 UTC  

and even less they have connection to contemporary German (Deutch) identity

2017-04-13 17:27:41 UTC  

even though of course, they are racially close since they were Indo-Europeans who lived in Western Europe prior to another invasion of Indo-Europeans (Goths, Slavs, etc....)

2017-04-13 17:29:59 UTC  

goths were germans

2017-04-13 17:30:19 UTC  

the true heirs of poland

2017-04-13 17:30:55 UTC  

anyway you think modern germans are not direct descendants of ancient germans, don't see any evidence for that

2017-04-13 17:31:07 UTC  

some other tribes have been assimilated

2017-04-13 17:31:12 UTC  

into germanity

2017-04-13 17:31:14 UTC  

The German term Deutschland, originally diutisciu land ("the German lands") is derived from deutsch (cf. dutch), *descended from Old High German diutisc "popular" (i.e. belonging to the diot or diota "people"), originally used to distinguish the language of the common people from Latin and its Romance descendants*

2017-04-13 17:31:19 UTC  

so much about it

2017-04-13 17:32:14 UTC  

The Germans themselves I should regard as aboriginal, and not mixed at all with other races through immigration or intercourse.

2017-04-13 17:32:16 UTC  

Tacitus

2017-04-13 17:32:39 UTC  

good now add everything that happened after Tacitus