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AND DARWINISM
it is not evil though, that is what I am saying, it is good
@Yarf Mangione POCS = PEOPLES OF COLOR?
cleansing the earth of dalits is moral and just
yeah
@Deleted User 57835c2c I DISAGREE. THE NON-WHITES WILL DO JUST FINE IF WE STOP INFLATING THEIR ECONOMIES WITH OUR NEEDS.
do you foresee an end of this pseudomystic varna brahmin stuff @Deleted User 57835c2c
or is this just gonna be you from now on
I don't want them to do just fine, they are dalits
not that I mind
well, I do
we should hurt dalits
PEOPLES OF COLOR ARE OKAY BY ME, @Yarf Mangione , PROVIDE WE REMEMBER "EVERY THING IN ITS PLACE"
they are human pollution, they need to go
so deport them?
YES
THEY GO BACK TO THEIR NATIVE LANDS
WE FOCUS ON OUR PEOPLE
where do you live?
TEXAS!
THE NATION OF, THAT IS
so who do you deport?
It's fair enough, but people of different races have historically coexisted in some fashion alright, except past peoples understood what was important and what came first
@Yarf Mangione ALL WHO ARE NOT PART OF THE FOUNDING GROUP
so anyone not a mexican?
@fallot WE CAN COEXIST AT A DISTANCE
race becomes an issue when there isn't some overriding connection or direction that supersedes it
@Yarf Mangione THIS WAS NEVER MEXICAN LAND
then why is the name not an english word
yeah sure, a bit of physical separation never hurt
PHYSICAL SEPARATION MAKES FOR GOOD MUTUAL RESPECT
Just that it doesn't need to be absolute
because practically, that may prove to be difficult
VERY LITTLE IS ABSOLUTE
for a reward that may be incremental
BUT "DIFFICULT" IS NOT A COUNTER-ARGUMENT, AS YOU WELL KNOW
@Yarf Mangione INDO-EUROPEANS LOVE TO BORROW NAMES
INCREMENTAL IS BETTER THAN MORIBUND
if it doesn't need to be absolute, no problem, I just think business as usual was good
we should go back to that
RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE HAVE IS A PATH TO DOOM
Texas is Caddo Native American for 'friends'
NATIONALISM SOLVES THIS
business as usual 800 years ago maybe
SURE, THAT IS A GOOD START
PERSONALLY
I ASPIRE TO PLATO'S GOLDEN AGE
SINCE IT IS EASILY ACHIEVABLE
@Yarf Mangione I THOUGHT IT WAS CHEROKEE FOR "HOLD MY BEER"
what do you see in bruce charlton
Plato had a more coherent argument around class than Marx, that's for sure
@OJneg INDEED. HE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT MORE THAN "MUH PAYCHECK"
@fallot BRUCE IS AN INSIGHTFUL WRITER
I CAN DISAGREE WITH HIM ON SOME POINTS
BUT
HE AND "FAITH AND HERITAGE" ARE THE LEADING VOICES OF CHRISTIAN REACTION
AND THEY ARE REFORMING CHRISTIANITY
TOWARD SANITY
not familiar with the latter
FROM WHERE IT IS NOW WHICH IS... WOW
I agree Charlton is very insightful
I don't think there is a topic I can disagree with him on beyond literal mormon theology
It's funny, he has a wide sphere of interests
and somehow they tend to converge anyway
uncanny
assuming we can return to nationalism and something that resembles limited govt (which I assume, perhaps inccorectly that you would want) do you see a democratic government or something else? @diversity_is_racism
spin bowling in cricket?
lord of the rings cartoons?
migraine headaches?
PC is satan is a big one too, you should get on that
@fallot AGREED. BRUCE IS THE CLASSIC PRINCIPLED POLYMATH
texas is already minority majority
A TYPE THAT IS OFTEN FOUND IN ENGLAND AND GERMANY
@Yarf Mangione YES... YES I KNOW
you are doomed
AND THE DIVERSITY OF DIFFERENT TYPES TENDS TO KILL EACH OTHER
IF WE CONTINUE THE PRESENT PATH, SURELY
LOL
DIVERSITY IS SUICIDE
you will just go back to being a province of mexico
What makes people become people that stop seeing it like the whole of humanity saw it
and value diversity?
@diversity_is_racism sorry just skimmed, but I'm guessing an enlightened monarchy is what you would argue for?
While things are changing, even now, most non-white people have a common sense approach to diversity
non-western people
I THINK THIS IS CHANGING
sorry
DIVERSITY HAS FAILED
it is, no doubt
AH
NON-WESTERN PEOPLE ARE MORE REALISTIC I THINK
for now
LESS IDEALISTIC, WHICH IS BECAUSE THE ULTIMATE IDEALISM IS "WHAT WORKS" BUT SOCIAL IDEALISM IS "WHAT SOUNDS GOOD"
their elite intellectual classes are just as prone
and follow the lead of the west
THE WEST CONSUMED ITSELF WITH ADVERTISING
EXACTLY
THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SO INCLINED
BUT THIS LIFESTYLE IS NOT WORKING FOR ANYONE
SO THIS WILL CHANGE
change by forcible pressure to change you mean
i.e. with consequence
@OJneg NATIONALISM, ARISTOCRACY, SOCIAL CASTE AND A TRANSCENDENTAL GOAL = ENLIGHTENED ARISTOCRACY "PLUS"
I think the west would happily suicide
and the world with it
I DO NOT THINK FORCIBLE PRESSURE WILL BE REQUIRED, @fallot
IT IS CLEAR THE OLD WAY FAILED
SO WE MOVE ON
I don't mean coercion
MOST IN THE WEST WANT TO DIE
I mean being forced by circumstance
not Nazism
BUT THEY ARE NOT REALLY FOCUSED ON THE FUTURE ANYWAY
not forced by a changed of heart/mind
AND THEY LIVE IN A MISERABLE SOCIETY
@fallot I AGREE WITH THAT IN PART, BUT IT HAPPENS THIS WAY:
I think misery will prove to be rather persistent
THE OLD ORDER FAILS, SO THEY ARE FORCED TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING NEW
AS A RESULT, THEY CHANGE HEARTS AND MINDS TO BE OPEN TO WHAT IS OBVIOUS
A CHANGE OF DIRECTION
Has there, to date, been any evidence of such introspection and change in direction?
YES
VAST CHANGES OCCUR FREQUENTLY
CONSIDER THE FOUNDING OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE
I really don't think so, it seems more like people are doubling down
AND MOVEMENT OF CLASSICLA GREEKS INTO EUROPE
and there is a growing voice of reaction to that
DEPENDS ON WHO "PEOPLE" IS
YES, ON THE LEFT
AND YET
leftists
i.e. normal people
THEY ARE DISPLAYING THE TANTRUM
by proxy
WHICH MAKES THEM SEEM AS DIRECTIONLESS AS THEY ARE
not elite leftists, your ordinary person who pretty much has liberal views
NORMAL PEOPLE ARE CHANGING THEIR ALLIANCES
ELITE LEFTISTS = MANIPULATOR
yeah, they are, but I think it will fail at this rate
I certainly hope it doesn't
I think it's a reaction that doesn't have real principles to stand on
their principles will eventually reduce to leftism
its a bump in the road
prozak I think your current worldview you push is full of holes, but it is picking up steam as popularity goes
as memetic warfare it is working even though it's full of problems
of course that was your only point with it, so congrats
the alt right right now will start to bite at itself
and separate somewhat
similar to the left, it needs that impetus
that enemy
even though the enemy is actually real in this case, whereas its mostly imagined for the leftists
but that gives them more power
cause they can keep going no matter what, there is always an enemy
not so the alt right
I assume prozak is going to push a slightly updated meme as the publicly accepted version of the meme changes
when the left categorizes the alt-right as a coherent political movement ๐ ๐
maybe in 10 years he will be posting articles on how to identify a dalit
Leftism is more than politics
and so is the alt right
very true
so that categorization does actually make things clear in their terms
@fallot THE ALT RIGHT NEEDS DIRECTION; IT IS BESET BY INTERNAL CONFLICT
I agree that it needs direction
@Deleted User 57835c2c I HAVE BEEN HAMMERING ON THIS FOR SOME YEARS, JUST FINALIZED THE FORM
MANY THINGS WHICH ARE OBVIOUS NEED NOT BE COVERED
SUCH AS THE SELF-INTEREST OF ALL ETHNIC GROUPS
ALTHOUGH, THAT IS COVERED INCIDENTALLY BY MANY IF NOT MOST ARTICLES
the self interest of all ethnic groups is the actual problem though
is this Texas's statue of Rhodes?
for example as one commenter said, for some ethnic groups nationalism is optimal, for others parasitism is a more profitable path
@fallot IT ESCAPED FROM THE IMMEDIATE ILLUSIONS OF LEFTISM, NOW HAS TO FIND A DIFFERENT DIRECTION
Rightism is by definition always exclusive to an exten, by the virtue of being anti-egalitarian
THIS IS THE HARDER PART
Leftism is always Internationalist
you know I don't think it did, but under the umbrella is people who did
the mass of people that support say
@The Enlightened Shepherd AGREED. WE ARE RESULTS BASED, NOT BASED ON SOCIAL FACTORS.
Brexit or Trump
@Deleted User 57835c2c I DO NOT AGREE THAT ETHNIC SELF-INTEREST IS A PROBLEM
They are still essentially leftist in their point of view and approach to the world
RATHER, IT IS LOGICAL
THE WEST JUST DENIED IT
That has not changed, and Trump is their candidate, not the alt rights
@fallot AGREED FOR MANY OF THEM
it is a problem when others do it, good when we do it
He is still just a civic nationalist kind of figure
TRUMP IS A MODERATE TRYING TO STAUNCH THE FLOW
@Deleted User 57835c2c IF ALL GROUPS DO IT, NO PROBLEM
Yeah, a reaction
IF THE WEST PRETENDS IT IS NOT REAL, A PROBLEM
@fallot I DO NOT THINK HE IS AN IDEOLOGUE, JUST A PRAGMATIC REALIST
if all groups do it, china will fish out the sea to feed their people first. what then?
I agree
HE WANTS TO STOP THE BLEEDING OF THE LAST 70 YEARS
Yeah, but direction is required
for the masses
idealism
@Deleted User 57835c2c CHINA IS DOOMED ANYWAY
Ultimately at least
no big deal, just the whole ocean is destroyed
maybe for now, pragmatism is the uh
the south will rise again
pragmatic course
THE MASSES REQUIRE DIRECTION, YES, WHICH IS WHY CULTURE-RULE (NATIONALISM) PLUS ARISTOCRACY
like jebus from the cave big tex will rise once more
You cant move people with nationalism
It doesn't work
I DISAGREE
NATIONALISM INSPIRES
It is a relatively feeble tie to bind
To a degree
More than say, sports team
does anyone care barely due to globalism now?
is the internet generation nationalist?
Ideology of the Aristocracts has always been supra-national, it has to be
But Aristocracy is nevertheless, aware of the significance of nationalism
Nationalism I think, shows promise only for a few generations
inevitably, prosperity and comfort, new generations, new points of view
bring fractures quickly
how do you make the nation take the place of say, God?
Even if it ultimate principle isn't God
I DO NOT WANT TO REPLACE GOD
NATION AND GOD ARE COMPLEMENTARY IDEAS
I think you have to, to make nationalism a binding force in and of itself
who is the god of texas?
big tex?
How do you solve the God problem basically
As far as I am concerned, there is no more powerful motivation
@The Enlightened Shepherd AGREED. NATIONALISM, ARISTOCRACY AND PIETY POTENTIATE ONE ANOTHER.
@fallot GODS ARE SPECIFIC TO PEOPLES
Right from day to day life, down to civilizations
EVEN INTERPRETATIONS OF GODS
Sure
I'm not saying anything has to exist for this
AND SO, THE TWO COEXIST
HERE IS A THOUGHT:
IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE IDEA TO TURN GOD INTO AN IDEOLOGY
DO YOU SEE WHERE I AM GOING WITH THAT, @fallot ?
I do, I don't agree I think
GOD AS AN IDEOLOGY WILL CORRUPT OUR NOTION OF GOD
ONE NEED ONLY LOOK AT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
The catholic church is corrupt due to distance from god
all else is secondary
@fallot The Elite, that is, the ruling power of any sovereign state is the one which so to speak "gifts" or "blesses" it's subject with pretty much anything, sacred religion and sacred concept of nation, of Patria included
That's retarded though, normal people don't think like that
That isn't the reality of faith
Modern peple don't think like that
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