BUT HE FLIRTED WITH THE CHRISTIAN IDEA OF UNIVERSALITY THROUGH THE WORD AND CHRIST

@The Enlightened Shepherd I DISAGREE THAT ROMANTICISM SUCKS.

IT IS TRANSITIONAL, A CROSSING OVER AND UNDER

THE RUSSIAN CONTRIBUTIONS ARE INFERIOR TO THE WESTERN ONES

SORRY, THAT IS ALL I CAN ADD HERE

@diversity_is_racism take it with flexibility that my "categorical" statements must be always taken with

AS A DEFENDER OF ARISTOCRACY, YOU WILL NOTE OF COURSE

THAT A PEASANT SOCIETY PRODUCES PEASANT WORKS

"CATEGORICAL"... IS THAT A KRUSCHEV JOKE? IF SO WELL DONE

Sounds like a bunch of germanic nonsense to me

ROMANTICISM OR KANT?

peasant society and peasant music

All of Europe was a peasant society at the time

THAT'S HISTORY

NO

Yes

EUROPE WAS A HIERARCHY

So was Russia

RUSSIA WAS ESCAPED/FLEEING SERFS

HIERARCHY WAS IMPOSED LATER ON RUSSIA

A EUROPEAN ARISTOCRACY

What do you mean escaped fleeing serfs

OVER A EURASIAN PEASANTRY

GENETICALLY

Nobody moved from his land in Russia for 800 years

RUSSIANS ARE MOSTLY GERMAN CASTOFFS

other than Cossacks which ahd special privilleges

Where did you read that

I AM NOT SURE IT IS CONTROVERSIAL AT ALL

MOST RECENT WERE SOME OF THE GNXP ARTICLES

Germans in Russia, other than those of Varangian origin, and other than those who were joined in Russian state later (Baltic Germans)

were settled in Russia by Catherine

and they were agriculural workes in Volga region and elsewhere in Ukraine

NO, GENETIC ORIGIN OF RUSSIAN PEOPLE

Russian Music was not produced by peasants but by upper tiers of Russian society

same as in Europe

IN MY VIEW THEY DID A POOR JOB

Peasants in Europe played folklore instruments and enjoyed peasant music same as in Russia

I HAVE SOME SYMPATHIES FOR SHOSTAKOVICH AND RIMSKY-KORSAKOV

BUT OTHERWISE

IT IS A WASTELAND

AND EVEN THOSE I CONSIDER INFERIOR

You don't think Wagner's symphonies were attended by shoe sellers and horse traders

OF COURSE NOT

I AM A CASTE REALIST

CONTRA SHAKESPEARE

Ok, you don't like it

But qualifications such as "peasant society and pesaant music"

I AM ALSO NOT FOND OF MOST ENGLISH CLASSICAL

Is what Germanic world amuses itself with over the centuries

PEASANT MUSIC = SIMPLISTIC

LET US MENTION TCHAIKOVSKY HERE

GERMANIC = HIERARCHY
RUSSIA = PEASANT REVOLT

We are again dealing with ideal-typized pictures not corresponding to reality

WE ARE DEALING WITH HISTORICAL REALITY

You can even say that Russian society was modelled as aristocratic, contrary to tendencies

WHERE IS THE ORIGIN OF RUSSIANS?

but it still DID operate as such

OH, RIGHT, EUROPEAN CASTOFFS WHO BRED WITH MONGOLS

namely, as an aristocratic society

THERE ARE MANY GOOD THINGS ABOUT RUSSIA

BUT

IT IS A PEASANT SOCIETY

RULED BY EUROPEANS

diversity

WHO WERE THEN OVERTHROWN

EXACTLY

DIVERSITY DID RUSSIA

you are now putting up constantly unqalified informatons which you refuse to elaborate on

how did Russia come to be a society of "european castoffs"

I HAVE ELABORATED ON THESE IN THE PAST

where did you hear that

what germanic castoffs

GENETIC ORIGIN OF RUSSIANS IS GERMAN SERFS

which historical event is that

WHO LEFT TO FREE LANDS FOR EASIER LIFE

How come

LONG AGO

HOW COME?

PROBABLY TO AVOID CONSTRAINTS OF FEUDALISM

OR

the percentage of germans who settled russia for cheaper land

OVERPOPULATION

is enormously tiny

@diversity_is_racism I think Kants intentions were pretty clear and yes he fell back on Christian deontology. It's not uncommon for even brilliant people to trip when trying to figure out how humans should live.

IN WHAT TIME PERIOD

like 0.4% of the Russian population at the tme, perhaps lesser

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ HE WAS RATHER FOND OF CHRISTIANITY. HENCE NIETZSCHE "A CRAFTY CHRISTIAN"

yes

NO, ORIGINS OF RUSSIAN POPULATION ITSELF WERE GERMAN

LIKE MOST OF EUROPE

No

Germans in Russia were split among couple of populations

1. German ruling family

BEFORE THAT

ORIGINS OF RUSSIAN PEOPLE THEMSELVES

2. German nobility in Poland, Baltic area and northwest

GENETICALLY

POLAND ALSO HAD ITS OWN NOBILITY

3. Germans of Volga area, Eastern Ukraine and Souther Russia, who were agricultural workers