similar to the left, it needs that impetus

that enemy

even though the enemy is actually real in this case, whereas its mostly imagined for the leftists

but that gives them more power

cause they can keep going no matter what, there is always an enemy

not so the alt right

I assume prozak is going to push a slightly updated meme as the publicly accepted version of the meme changes

when the left categorizes the alt-right as a coherent political movement 😄 👌

maybe in 10 years he will be posting articles on how to identify a dalit

Leftism is more than politics

and so is the alt right

very true

so that categorization does actually make things clear in their terms

@fallot THE ALT RIGHT NEEDS DIRECTION; IT IS BESET BY INTERNAL CONFLICT

I agree that it needs direction

@Deleted User 57835c2c I HAVE BEEN HAMMERING ON THIS FOR SOME YEARS, JUST FINALIZED THE FORM

MANY THINGS WHICH ARE OBVIOUS NEED NOT BE COVERED

SUCH AS THE SELF-INTEREST OF ALL ETHNIC GROUPS

ALTHOUGH, THAT IS COVERED INCIDENTALLY BY MANY IF NOT MOST ARTICLES

the self interest of all ethnic groups is the actual problem though

http://thegoodetexanlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Big-Tex-Fire_Darg-2.jpg

is this Texas's statue of Rhodes?

for example as one commenter said, for some ethnic groups nationalism is optimal, for others parasitism is a more profitable path

@fallot IT ESCAPED FROM THE IMMEDIATE ILLUSIONS OF LEFTISM, NOW HAS TO FIND A DIFFERENT DIRECTION

Rightism is by definition always exclusive to an exten, by the virtue of being anti-egalitarian

THIS IS THE HARDER PART

Leftism is always Internationalist

you know I don't think it did, but under the umbrella is people who did

the mass of people that support say

@The Enlightened Shepherd AGREED. WE ARE RESULTS BASED, NOT BASED ON SOCIAL FACTORS.

Brexit or Trump

@Deleted User 57835c2c I DO NOT AGREE THAT ETHNIC SELF-INTEREST IS A PROBLEM

They are still essentially leftist in their point of view and approach to the world

RATHER, IT IS LOGICAL

THE WEST JUST DENIED IT

That has not changed, and Trump is their candidate, not the alt rights

@fallot AGREED FOR MANY OF THEM

it is a problem when others do it, good when we do it

He is still just a civic nationalist kind of figure

TRUMP IS A MODERATE TRYING TO STAUNCH THE FLOW

@Deleted User 57835c2c IF ALL GROUPS DO IT, NO PROBLEM

Yeah, a reaction

IF THE WEST PRETENDS IT IS NOT REAL, A PROBLEM

@fallot I DO NOT THINK HE IS AN IDEOLOGUE, JUST A PRAGMATIC REALIST

if all groups do it, china will fish out the sea to feed their people first. what then?

I agree

HE WANTS TO STOP THE BLEEDING OF THE LAST 70 YEARS

Yeah, but direction is required

for the masses

idealism

@Deleted User 57835c2c CHINA IS DOOMED ANYWAY

Ultimately at least

no big deal, just the whole ocean is destroyed

maybe for now, pragmatism is the uh

the south will rise again

pragmatic course

THE MASSES REQUIRE DIRECTION, YES, WHICH IS WHY CULTURE-RULE (NATIONALISM) PLUS ARISTOCRACY

like jebus from the cave big tex will rise once more

You cant move people with nationalism

It doesn't work

I DISAGREE

NATIONALISM INSPIRES

It is a relatively feeble tie to bind

To a degree

More than say, sports team

does anyone care barely due to globalism now?

is the internet generation nationalist?

Ideology of the Aristocracts has always been supra-national, it has to be

But Aristocracy is nevertheless, aware of the significance of nationalism

Nationalism I think, shows promise only for a few generations

inevitably, prosperity and comfort, new generations, new points of view

bring fractures quickly

how do you make the nation take the place of say, God?

Even if it ultimate principle isn't God

I DO NOT WANT TO REPLACE GOD

NATION AND GOD ARE COMPLEMENTARY IDEAS

I think you have to, to make nationalism a binding force in and of itself

who is the god of texas?

big tex?

How do you solve the God problem basically

As far as I am concerned, there is no more powerful motivation

@The Enlightened Shepherd AGREED. NATIONALISM, ARISTOCRACY AND PIETY POTENTIATE ONE ANOTHER.

@fallot GODS ARE SPECIFIC TO PEOPLES

Right from day to day life, down to civilizations

EVEN INTERPRETATIONS OF GODS

Sure

I'm not saying anything has to exist for this

AND SO, THE TWO COEXIST

HERE IS A THOUGHT:

IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE IDEA TO TURN GOD INTO AN IDEOLOGY

DO YOU SEE WHERE I AM GOING WITH THAT, @fallot ?

I do, I don't agree I think

GOD AS AN IDEOLOGY WILL CORRUPT OUR NOTION OF GOD

ONE NEED ONLY LOOK AT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

The catholic church is corrupt due to distance from god

all else is secondary

@fallot The Elite, that is, the ruling power of any sovereign state is the one which so to speak "gifts" or "blesses" it's subject with pretty much anything, sacred religion and sacred concept of nation, of Patria included

That's retarded though, normal people don't think like that

That isn't the reality of faith

Modern peple don't think like that