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2017-04-07 21:24:50 UTC

it doesn't work out to a large scale inversion of morality kind of scenario that I believe is occuring

2017-04-07 21:25:02 UTC

who could possibly want such a thing as that?

2017-04-07 21:25:11 UTC

a sociopath can be considered a human predator in a sense

2017-04-07 21:25:22 UTC

is it in the predator's interest to ultimately destroy prey?

2017-04-07 21:25:42 UTC

is the benefit received from this really that much superior to any other way of using normal people?

2017-04-07 21:25:47 UTC

i recommend Das Kapital Vol 1 for these answers.

2017-04-07 21:26:09 UTC

I'm not going to find these answers in that

2017-04-07 21:26:13 UTC

isn't that obvious on its face

2017-04-07 21:26:25 UTC

I'm going to find a different idea, from different assumptions

2017-04-07 21:26:29 UTC

that sees a different problem in the world

2017-04-07 21:26:46 UTC

and has a completely different idea about what qualifies as a solution

2017-04-07 21:27:22 UTC

it would perhaps lead you to view the mundane explanation without it requiring sociopathy

2017-04-07 21:27:32 UTC

mundane explanation for what though

2017-04-07 21:27:48 UTC

evil capitalist pc satanism

2017-04-07 21:27:56 UTC

you aren't really listening to me I think

2017-04-07 21:28:05 UTC

we must have talked about this many times

2017-04-07 21:28:28 UTC

it's become some sort of joke to you, or just a phrase, shorn of its true meaning

2017-04-07 21:29:17 UTC

then confine it to this cartoonish view of an evil mastermind capitalist
laughing as proles are crushed in the gears of the machinations
that enrich him

2017-04-07 21:29:31 UTC

yeah, cartoonish, absurd

2017-04-07 21:29:40 UTC

what this may do is justify the absurdity at best

2017-04-07 21:29:48 UTC

make it not cartoonish

2017-04-07 21:29:56 UTC

I'm looking for answers to essentially these two questions::

2017-04-07 21:30:11 UTC

1) Why are modern people (mostly white) okay with not having kids, and even consider this a good thing

2017-04-07 21:30:31 UTC

2) Broadly, why are so many good things not only dissipated in principle, but actually inverted to their opposite

2017-04-07 21:30:40 UTC

oh

2017-04-07 21:30:42 UTC

like why do people accept at a societal level stuff like

2017-04-07 21:30:47 UTC

this man is really a woman

2017-04-07 21:30:47 UTC

so that' why you like brubru

2017-04-07 21:31:14 UTC

we started off on similar footing in regards to the big questions about society

2017-04-07 21:31:18 UTC

which are to be honest

2017-04-07 21:31:22 UTC

not that big as questions go

2017-04-07 21:31:29 UTC

when I read Charlton I was already convinced of Satan

2017-04-07 21:31:41 UTC

what Charlton helped me to see is how explicit it is

2017-04-07 21:31:52 UTC

he helped me to put my own thoughts together

2017-04-07 21:32:10 UTC

i start off on 'the bourgeoisie is aids, what do we do now?' that's why i like marx, and nietzsche, and evola

2017-04-07 21:32:16 UTC

you can get "PC Satan" in its totality out of Seraphim Rose alone

2017-04-07 21:32:44 UTC

that seems many steps of iteration above @Horns

2017-04-07 21:32:46 UTC

very unbasic

2017-04-07 21:32:51 UTC

they're all also atheists

2017-04-07 21:33:11 UTC

evola was a catholic atheist

2017-04-07 21:33:15 UTC

Moral inversion as a phenomenon doesn't require one to be religious to perceive

2017-04-07 21:33:31 UTC

and Evola is closer to my neck of the woods even if he didn't believe

2017-04-07 21:33:49 UTC

a lot of what happens in modernity

2017-04-07 21:33:51 UTC

goes uncommented

2017-04-07 21:33:53 UTC

it feels okay

2017-04-07 21:33:55 UTC

have you seen how he put down righters turning to islam for anything

2017-04-07 21:34:00 UTC

that apathy is the special quality of modernity

2017-04-07 21:34:11 UTC

the things I described above, and this apathy, anomie, whatever you want to call it

2017-04-07 21:34:18 UTC

this isn't business as usual, civilization cycle stuff

2017-04-07 21:34:31 UTC

his history of nihilism is A+

2017-04-07 21:34:33 UTC

I've not seen it

2017-04-07 21:34:42 UTC

high tier philosophical history writing

2017-04-07 21:34:52 UTC

probably the best i've ever seen

2017-04-07 21:34:56 UTC

makes russel look puny

2017-04-07 21:35:41 UTC

he thought islam and the middle east would go the way the west did and looking to them for anything was a waste of time

2017-04-07 21:36:03 UTC

that may be the case

2017-04-07 21:36:06 UTC

he said white people would be exiting the morass as the rest of thew orld entered it and show them the way out

2017-04-07 21:36:11 UTC

or hoped that

2017-04-07 21:36:25 UTC

he wouldn't have fundamentally understood the problem the same way I would

2017-04-07 21:36:50 UTC

before his time

2017-04-07 21:37:06 UTC

no, he's a different way of formulating the uebermensch

2017-04-07 21:37:12 UTC

no exaggeration, Charlton is one of the most significant minds

2017-04-07 21:37:15 UTC

of recent history

2017-04-07 21:37:21 UTC

you're way of 'why can't we just be like we used to'

2017-04-07 21:37:24 UTC

I mean, the dude is a polymath

2017-04-07 21:37:26 UTC

proven credentials

2017-04-07 21:38:09 UTC

@diversity_is_racism Do you remember the googlezon video?

2017-04-07 21:38:10 UTC

from obscure Tolkienisms to nature of genius to his scientific research to his musings on society, mass media etc.

2017-04-07 21:38:22 UTC

it's always gold

2017-04-07 21:38:30 UTC

even when its wrong

2017-04-07 21:39:11 UTC

anal sex is worse than global warming.

2017-04-07 21:39:23 UTC

that's another one you turned into a joke, it was a joke to start with

2017-04-07 21:39:25 UTC

half joke

2017-04-07 21:39:32 UTC

the point is, global warming is bullshit

2017-04-07 21:39:33 UTC

quarter joke

2017-04-07 21:39:40 UTC

and people being okay with anal sex is significant as a phenomenon

2017-04-07 21:39:44 UTC

just your blase-ness about it

2017-04-07 21:39:49 UTC

you don't see it as anything special

2017-04-07 21:39:59 UTC

this is where Haidt comes in, partially

2017-04-07 21:40:19 UTC

Haidt was valuable to understand the human mindset of the ages

2017-04-07 21:40:32 UTC

hey fallot

2017-04-07 21:40:34 UTC

how purity is a part of morality

2017-04-07 21:40:34 UTC

IDIOCRACY

2017-04-07 21:40:41 UTC

what's worse; veganism or anal sex

2017-04-07 21:40:47 UTC

anal sex

2017-04-07 21:40:52 UTC

@MRB NO, DO NOT REMEMBER GOOGLEZON VIDEO

2017-04-07 21:40:54 UTC

veganism is fine, I just think its stupid

2017-04-07 21:40:58 UTC

anal sex is evil

2017-04-07 21:41:04 UTC

good to know

2017-04-07 21:41:17 UTC

some veganism could be evil, depending on reasons etc.

2017-04-07 21:41:18 UTC

is SODOMIZE THE WEAK out of the plans then

2017-04-07 21:41:37 UTC

can we facefuck them instead

2017-04-07 21:41:44 UTC

or is that also evil

2017-04-07 21:41:52 UTC

it's pretty evil

2017-04-07 21:43:12 UTC

what's more evil: one man blowing another or hetero anal sex

2017-04-07 21:43:30 UTC

have no real basis to make a distinction, both are sodomy

2017-04-07 21:43:37 UTC

Distopian skit about the combining then automation of news generation and a monopolization thereof.

2017-04-07 21:43:58 UTC

DYSTOPIA

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