Message from @fallot

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2017-04-07 21:22:20 UTC  

and leaves it to you to make the conclusions after some background explication

2017-04-07 21:22:55 UTC  

this amount of evil is uncotemplatable in humanity, so it must have a supernatural origin?

2017-04-07 21:22:56 UTC  

this covers scenarios from "cabal of sociopathic elites gone crazy who are dipping their toes into whatever weird stuff they please and laughing at people as they do it"

2017-04-07 21:23:06 UTC  

no, that isn't what I said

2017-04-07 21:23:10 UTC  

I said the motivations dont make sense

2017-04-07 21:23:20 UTC  

it doesn't add up to what a human being is like

2017-04-07 21:23:32 UTC  

what is your reason for looking for a supernatural origin

2017-04-07 21:23:40 UTC  

I've discussed this before

2017-04-07 21:23:51 UTC  

but the only two options I see are

2017-04-07 21:23:54 UTC  

or group of options

2017-04-07 21:24:04 UTC  

mundane: there do actually exist people who can be motivated this way

2017-04-07 21:24:21 UTC  

and yeah, you can use sociopathy as a solution

2017-04-07 21:24:36 UTC  

but the quality of such evil is short termism

2017-04-07 21:24:50 UTC  

it doesn't work out to a large scale inversion of morality kind of scenario that I believe is occuring

2017-04-07 21:25:02 UTC  

who could possibly want such a thing as that?

2017-04-07 21:25:11 UTC  

a sociopath can be considered a human predator in a sense

2017-04-07 21:25:22 UTC  

is it in the predator's interest to ultimately destroy prey?

2017-04-07 21:25:42 UTC  

is the benefit received from this really that much superior to any other way of using normal people?

2017-04-07 21:25:47 UTC  

i recommend Das Kapital Vol 1 for these answers.

2017-04-07 21:26:09 UTC  

I'm not going to find these answers in that

2017-04-07 21:26:13 UTC  

isn't that obvious on its face

2017-04-07 21:26:25 UTC  

I'm going to find a different idea, from different assumptions

2017-04-07 21:26:29 UTC  

that sees a different problem in the world

2017-04-07 21:26:46 UTC  

and has a completely different idea about what qualifies as a solution

2017-04-07 21:27:22 UTC  

it would perhaps lead you to view the mundane explanation without it requiring sociopathy

2017-04-07 21:27:32 UTC  

mundane explanation for what though

2017-04-07 21:27:48 UTC  

evil capitalist pc satanism

2017-04-07 21:27:56 UTC  

you aren't really listening to me I think

2017-04-07 21:28:05 UTC  

we must have talked about this many times

2017-04-07 21:28:28 UTC  

it's become some sort of joke to you, or just a phrase, shorn of its true meaning

2017-04-07 21:29:17 UTC  

then confine it to this cartoonish view of an evil mastermind capitalist
laughing as proles are crushed in the gears of the machinations
that enrich him

2017-04-07 21:29:31 UTC  

yeah, cartoonish, absurd

2017-04-07 21:29:40 UTC  

what this may do is justify the absurdity at best

2017-04-07 21:29:48 UTC  

make it not cartoonish

2017-04-07 21:29:56 UTC  

I'm looking for answers to essentially these two questions::

2017-04-07 21:30:11 UTC  

1) Why are modern people (mostly white) okay with not having kids, and even consider this a good thing

2017-04-07 21:30:31 UTC  

2) Broadly, why are so many good things not only dissipated in principle, but actually inverted to their opposite

2017-04-07 21:30:40 UTC  

oh

2017-04-07 21:30:42 UTC  

like why do people accept at a societal level stuff like

2017-04-07 21:30:47 UTC  

this man is really a woman

2017-04-07 21:30:47 UTC  

so that' why you like brubru