Message from @Horns

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2017-04-07 21:23:32 UTC  

what is your reason for looking for a supernatural origin

2017-04-07 21:23:40 UTC  

I've discussed this before

2017-04-07 21:23:51 UTC  

but the only two options I see are

2017-04-07 21:23:54 UTC  

or group of options

2017-04-07 21:24:04 UTC  

mundane: there do actually exist people who can be motivated this way

2017-04-07 21:24:21 UTC  

and yeah, you can use sociopathy as a solution

2017-04-07 21:24:36 UTC  

but the quality of such evil is short termism

2017-04-07 21:24:50 UTC  

it doesn't work out to a large scale inversion of morality kind of scenario that I believe is occuring

2017-04-07 21:25:02 UTC  

who could possibly want such a thing as that?

2017-04-07 21:25:11 UTC  

a sociopath can be considered a human predator in a sense

2017-04-07 21:25:22 UTC  

is it in the predator's interest to ultimately destroy prey?

2017-04-07 21:25:42 UTC  

is the benefit received from this really that much superior to any other way of using normal people?

2017-04-07 21:25:47 UTC  

i recommend Das Kapital Vol 1 for these answers.

2017-04-07 21:26:09 UTC  

I'm not going to find these answers in that

2017-04-07 21:26:13 UTC  

isn't that obvious on its face

2017-04-07 21:26:25 UTC  

I'm going to find a different idea, from different assumptions

2017-04-07 21:26:29 UTC  

that sees a different problem in the world

2017-04-07 21:26:46 UTC  

and has a completely different idea about what qualifies as a solution

2017-04-07 21:27:22 UTC  

it would perhaps lead you to view the mundane explanation without it requiring sociopathy

2017-04-07 21:27:32 UTC  

mundane explanation for what though

2017-04-07 21:27:48 UTC  

evil capitalist pc satanism

2017-04-07 21:27:56 UTC  

you aren't really listening to me I think

2017-04-07 21:28:05 UTC  

we must have talked about this many times

2017-04-07 21:28:28 UTC  

it's become some sort of joke to you, or just a phrase, shorn of its true meaning

2017-04-07 21:29:17 UTC  

then confine it to this cartoonish view of an evil mastermind capitalist
laughing as proles are crushed in the gears of the machinations
that enrich him

2017-04-07 21:29:31 UTC  

yeah, cartoonish, absurd

2017-04-07 21:29:40 UTC  

what this may do is justify the absurdity at best

2017-04-07 21:29:48 UTC  

make it not cartoonish

2017-04-07 21:29:56 UTC  

I'm looking for answers to essentially these two questions::

2017-04-07 21:30:11 UTC  

1) Why are modern people (mostly white) okay with not having kids, and even consider this a good thing

2017-04-07 21:30:31 UTC  

2) Broadly, why are so many good things not only dissipated in principle, but actually inverted to their opposite

2017-04-07 21:30:40 UTC  

oh

2017-04-07 21:30:42 UTC  

like why do people accept at a societal level stuff like

2017-04-07 21:30:47 UTC  

this man is really a woman

2017-04-07 21:30:47 UTC  

so that' why you like brubru

2017-04-07 21:31:14 UTC  

we started off on similar footing in regards to the big questions about society

2017-04-07 21:31:18 UTC  

which are to be honest

2017-04-07 21:31:22 UTC  

not that big as questions go

2017-04-07 21:31:29 UTC  

when I read Charlton I was already convinced of Satan

2017-04-07 21:31:41 UTC  

what Charlton helped me to see is how explicit it is

2017-04-07 21:31:52 UTC  

he helped me to put my own thoughts together