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2017-04-04 17:31:58 UTC

anything? nothing?

2017-04-04 17:32:34 UTC

the gospels are the most copied books of antiquitiy and late antiquity

2017-04-04 17:32:39 UTC

For most of the history of Christianity in the West I am sure you would be slain for denigrating the Bible publicly

2017-04-04 17:32:45 UTC

isn't that true?

2017-04-04 17:32:50 UTC

no

2017-04-04 17:33:25 UTC

The Church just makes you say the church is right in manners of doctrine.

2017-04-04 17:33:35 UTC

just ordinary people would lynch you I mean

2017-04-04 17:33:43 UTC

Orindary people couldn't fucking read

2017-04-04 17:33:47 UTC

doesn't matter

2017-04-04 17:34:06 UTC

and even if they could, they often had different ideas of god than the churches

2017-04-04 17:34:17 UTC

plural intended

2017-04-04 17:34:20 UTC

seems pretty irrelevant to what I said

2017-04-04 17:34:31 UTC

whether they did or didn't, they wouldn't take kindly to someone dissing the bible

2017-04-04 17:34:46 UTC

would they just let that go?

2017-04-04 17:35:08 UTC

Did I diss the bible as a text?

2017-04-04 17:35:28 UTC

The bible is a much better example of it's time period in late antiquitiy and the dark ages

2017-04-04 17:35:31 UTC

than the koran is

2017-04-04 17:35:44 UTC

there are exponentially more manuscripts

2017-04-04 17:35:50 UTC

Good afternoon, gentlemen

2017-04-04 17:35:54 UTC

hi @MRB

2017-04-04 17:36:29 UTC

@Death Strike's Bat you made a reference about inbred jawas having an unkind reaction to someone questioning their religious text, in this case the Quran

2017-04-04 17:36:38 UTC

yes

2017-04-04 17:36:39 UTC

I responded that this was the case for most of the history of Christianity in the west

2017-04-04 17:36:41 UTC

essentially

2017-04-04 17:36:42 UTC

no

2017-04-04 17:36:47 UTC

present a disagreement then

2017-04-04 17:36:52 UTC

the bible is not the word of god

2017-04-04 17:37:00 UTC

irrelevant

2017-04-04 17:37:03 UTC

the christian god transcends human experience

2017-04-04 17:37:05 UTC

despite being human

2017-04-04 17:37:09 UTC

irrelevant again

2017-04-04 17:37:35 UTC

why don't you just clearly say

2017-04-04 17:37:52 UTC

"No, if someone cast aspertions on the bible throughout most of Christian history, they wouldn't suffer harm"

2017-04-04 17:38:09 UTC

is it not true perhaps?

2017-04-04 17:38:26 UTC

Muslims can still be inbred idiots, with that being true/false

2017-04-04 17:39:46 UTC

Christianity doesn't ordain killing heretics as a religious tenet.

2017-04-04 17:40:04 UTC

furthermore Orthodoxy and Heresey have different implications

2017-04-04 17:40:15 UTC

than in Islam

2017-04-04 17:40:22 UTC

You're not addressing the issue

2017-04-04 17:40:23 UTC

Why is that

2017-04-04 17:40:25 UTC

for what they do cosmologically

2017-04-04 17:40:33 UTC

It doesn't matter what either religion says about heresy

2017-04-04 17:40:48 UTC

yes it does

2017-04-04 17:41:07 UTC

No, it doesn't, because you could get lynched by angry people over much more minor shit than that

2017-04-04 17:41:31 UTC

but frankly the christian mobs are usually more interesting in forcibly baptizing heathens

2017-04-04 17:41:35 UTC

and killing jews and muslims

2017-04-04 17:41:38 UTC

I just don't understand why you cannot acknowledge the simple logic

2017-04-04 17:41:43 UTC

it's not like it affects your position

2017-04-04 17:41:44 UTC

or forcibly baptizing them and then killing them

2017-04-04 17:41:55 UTC

so at least their souls would be saved

2017-04-04 17:42:05 UTC

be that as it may, how would they respond to someone casting aspertions on the bible in public

2017-04-04 17:42:11 UTC

would they let it go

2017-04-04 17:42:15 UTC

would they respond with mild censure

2017-04-04 17:42:19 UTC

or would they be madder

2017-04-04 17:42:27 UTC

it's really simple I think?

2017-04-04 17:42:30 UTC

What is there to textually criticize about hte historiocity of the gospels?

2017-04-04 17:42:39 UTC

okay, you're just not going to answer are you

2017-04-04 17:42:43 UTC

suit yourself

2017-04-04 17:42:44 UTC

Other than matthew, mark, luke, and john didn't write them?

2017-04-04 17:42:48 UTC

and they didn't know jesus?

2017-04-04 17:42:58 UTC

"It's all bullshit"

2017-04-04 17:43:04 UTC

the critique doesn't have to be true or false.

2017-04-04 17:45:25 UTC

Will such a thing ever catch on? I think it's a pretty big jump from even wearing such stuff

2017-04-04 17:45:30 UTC

to actually implanting it in your body

2017-04-04 17:45:34 UTC

I think it won't take

2017-04-04 17:45:45 UTC

not as things currently stand at least

2017-04-04 17:46:05 UTC

would any of you accede to such a device if let's say you were sure there was nothing shifty going on?

2017-04-04 17:52:28 UTC

A few months ago I saw a common core question (language arts) asking students to write a paragraph supporting a new microchip implant. I think it may be more palatable in the future as it's already being normalized now.

2017-04-04 17:52:38 UTC

Looking for the article now.

2017-04-04 17:53:15 UTC

Really? Fascinating

2017-04-04 17:54:07 UTC

I believe it was a part of the US Common Core curriculum. I could be mistaken though.

2017-04-04 17:54:40 UTC

I can't find anything googling offhand, where did you encounter it?

2017-04-04 17:54:55 UTC

I'll take your word for it but I'm curious

2017-04-04 17:55:53 UTC

Ill find it - I'm equally curious where I saw it and the context.

2017-04-04 17:56:52 UTC

Meme magic

2017-04-04 18:06:43 UTC

@devolved I'm reading AnonCon

2017-04-04 18:07:01 UTC

I'll paste a section as an example of where his worldview just falls apart, totally inconsistent

2017-04-04 18:07:08 UTC

One worrying aspect is leftist r-strategists tend to have high creativity, perhaps as an outgrowth of an evolved drive to create and exploit alternative resource streams as a way of avoiding direct conflict. As a result leftists tend to operate in these fields, and exhibit some measure of competence.

2017-04-04 18:07:46 UTC

So r-"strategists" tend to have higher creativity? Woudn't you expect higher creativity from K-selected populations that have to make do with limited resources or poor conditions?

2017-04-04 18:08:18 UTC

this kind of incoherence pops up every time I see r/K stuff applied directly to liberal vs. conservative

2017-04-04 18:10:43 UTC

Indeed

2017-04-04 18:10:57 UTC

But would you say it works, loosely

2017-04-04 18:11:05 UTC

That it's more true than not

2017-04-04 18:11:58 UTC

no, I wouldn't, but I would say you can use it as a framework to understand other stuff

2017-04-04 18:12:06 UTC

for example, the situation of black people in America and welfare

2017-04-04 18:12:25 UTC

certainly you can make an argument that this is a population that is "r-selecting"

2017-04-04 18:12:39 UTC

more false than not I would say

2017-04-04 18:18:16 UTC

one more thing about AnonCon @devolved

2017-04-04 18:18:19 UTC

he has this certain tone

2017-04-04 18:18:25 UTC

"pssst, hey guy, yeah, you there"

2017-04-04 18:18:30 UTC

dark alley dude with secret tonic

2017-04-04 18:31:38 UTC

Yeah

2017-04-04 18:31:44 UTC

He's an asshole

2017-04-04 18:58:20 UTC

@fallot Haven't got to the reference I mentioned earlier, but here is an example: Poems to Play with (in Class) Sample Unit of Study for Grades 3-5 suggests โ€œBaby Ate a Microchipโ€ by Neal Levin

2017-04-04 19:00:48 UTC

It could be a figurative reference, but reference in a positive light just the same.

2017-04-04 19:02:21 UTC

This is ubiquitous in larger city schools too. https://www.rt.com/usa/texas-school-id-hernandez-033/

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