Soy milk was introduced to the US market by Vitasoy in 1979; the first domestic manufacturer of soy milk was Sunrich Food Group, which introduced its products in 1985.[3]

but I don't care

did all asians develop gyno?

should they?

is there an evil ghost in soy that gives you gyno, or is this one of those things we'd have seen by now?

There bodies are different

the argument isn't that they will get gyno, but the effect of feminzing chemicals

what does it do to you?

we don't know

do these hormones have a psychological effect?

Lactose intolerant asiatics

almost certainly

obviously it didn't keep them from breeding

it's pretty obvious that the entire asian population was not consuming soy milk as an alternative to cow's milk

but it doesn't even matter

yeah science doesn't matter

I agree

jewish lies

drink the full fat

195.5

Indo-euros tend to be able to handle different foods

I'm telling you science, it contains feminizing chemicals (100%)

your meta analysis shows that to date, we have not found it to have obvious feminizing effects in any study

that doesn't mean the topic is well studied

it doesn't mean there is enough data to establish this

on the other hand, we have a case report where causation is quite obviously established

so at least the basic fact that this product contains something, and that something can have an effect

is pretty clear I think

Honestly just have one cup once in a while

now whether this effect is good or bad

I won't argue

I think it's not good

In contrast to the results of some rodent studies, findings from a recently published metaanalysis and subsequently published studies show that neither isoflavone supplements nor isoflavone-rich soy affect total or free testosterone (T) levels. Similarly, there is essentially no evidence from the nine identified clinical studies that isoflavone exposure affects circulating estrogen levels in men. Clinical evidence also indicates that isoflavones have no effect on sperm or semen parameters, although only three intervention studies were identified and none were longer than 3 months in duration. Finally, findings from animal studies suggesting that isoflavones increase the risk of erectile dysfunction are not applicable to men, because of differences in isoflavone metabolism between rodents and humans and the excessively high amount of isoflavones to which the animals were exposed.

hey look, isoflavone metabolism is different in humans

You don't even necessarily need a substitute in tea/coffee

as you are just googling and throwing things out

this is from my link earlier

it makes sense you showed me something about reduced testosterone

yeah, I know

it also says circulating estrogen was not increased

not were sperm counts decreased

why would sperm counts matter?

why would circulating estrogen matter

they are estrogenic chemicals on their own

yeah why would science matter

How do I increase sperm count?

I'm addressing the science

you're just throwing out shit zingers, talk instead

ok

taking estrogen won't drop my sperm count

you are a dalit

hey @MentalSyntaxError you fucking faggot, commies are spreading our logs because you didn't remove the agent i told you about ages ago

why would it?

go drink bacon grease

it is manly and will increase your testosterone

no, but I'll drink good full fat milk though

you can keep arguing with the pretend fallot in your head

@profagonist who are they

the pretend one is smarter, he at least knows about science

nah i give up

i'm leaVING TODAY

noooo! first Ludvig

it's me

now you

NAH

I'M GONNA DO IT

I'M LEAVING

I'M GONNA

I'M GONNA

If you leave I do too

@profagonist how do you know they are infiltrators anyway

and why not just let them stay

what is to infiltrate

let them read our wonderful logs

yeah, exactly

got me banned elsewhere

what's there to infiltrate

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haha

@Kalvin im just kidding

where?

he's kidding too

Communism is one of the most disgusting ideologies out there

😂 the r/metallica discord 😂

lol

it is pretty obviously me

a mutual friend told me about that

Rage -quitting in 3, 2, 1 ...

I am the one saying to drink soy milk and listen to science

What about the phytoestrogens @Deleted User 57835c2c

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20378106

RESULT(S):

In contrast to the results of some rodent studies, findings from a recently published metaanalysis and subsequently published studies show that neither isoflavone supplements nor isoflavone-rich soy affect total or free testosterone (T) levels. Similarly, there is essentially no evidence from the nine identified clinical studies that isoflavone exposure affects circulating estrogen levels in men. Clinical evidence also indicates that isoflavones have no effect on sperm or semen parameters, although only three intervention studies were identified and none were longer than 3 months in duration. Finally, findings from animal studies suggesting that isoflavones increase the risk of erectile dysfunction are not applicable to men, because of differences in isoflavone metabolism between rodents and humans and the excessively high amount of isoflavones to which the animals were exposed.

"we found taking birth control pills does nothing to men in a big meta-analysis, therefore we are all now taking birth control pills"

are you reading that?

I just told you, why should it have an effect on testosterone?

the premise is not sound

an estrogenic chemical will result in effects similar to estrogen

so what should be explored, symptomatology?

it need not have an affect anywhere else

no, you look at what estrogen does