Message from @Kalvin

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2017-04-02 20:51:57 UTC  

we don't know

2017-04-02 20:52:02 UTC  

do these hormones have a psychological effect?

2017-04-02 20:52:04 UTC  

Lactose intolerant asiatics

2017-04-02 20:52:05 UTC  

almost certainly

2017-04-02 20:52:06 UTC  

obviously it didn't keep them from breeding

2017-04-02 20:52:42 UTC  

it's pretty obvious that the entire asian population was not consuming soy milk as an alternative to cow's milk

2017-04-02 20:52:50 UTC  

but it doesn't even matter

2017-04-02 20:52:54 UTC  

yeah science doesn't matter

2017-04-02 20:52:55 UTC  

I agree

2017-04-02 20:52:56 UTC  

jewish lies

2017-04-02 20:52:58 UTC  

drink the full fat

2017-04-02 20:53:05 UTC  

195.5

2017-04-02 20:53:10 UTC  

Indo-euros tend to be able to handle different foods

2017-04-02 20:53:14 UTC  

I'm telling you science, it contains feminizing chemicals (100%)

2017-04-02 20:53:35 UTC  

your meta analysis shows that to date, we have not found it to have obvious feminizing effects in any study

2017-04-02 20:53:42 UTC  

that doesn't mean the topic is well studied

2017-04-02 20:53:47 UTC  

it doesn't mean there is enough data to establish this

2017-04-02 20:54:02 UTC  

on the other hand, we have a case report where causation is quite obviously established

2017-04-02 20:54:14 UTC  

so at least the basic fact that this product contains something, and that something can have an effect

2017-04-02 20:54:16 UTC  

is pretty clear I think

2017-04-02 20:54:17 UTC  

Honestly just have one cup once in a while

2017-04-02 20:54:23 UTC  

now whether this effect is good or bad

2017-04-02 20:54:25 UTC  

I won't argue

2017-04-02 20:54:31 UTC  

I think it's not good

2017-04-02 20:54:48 UTC  

In contrast to the results of some rodent studies, findings from a recently published metaanalysis and subsequently published studies show that neither isoflavone supplements nor isoflavone-rich soy affect total or free testosterone (T) levels. Similarly, there is essentially no evidence from the nine identified clinical studies that isoflavone exposure affects circulating estrogen levels in men. Clinical evidence also indicates that isoflavones have no effect on sperm or semen parameters, although only three intervention studies were identified and none were longer than 3 months in duration. Finally, findings from animal studies suggesting that isoflavones increase the risk of erectile dysfunction are not applicable to men, because of differences in isoflavone metabolism between rodents and humans and the excessively high amount of isoflavones to which the animals were exposed.

2017-04-02 20:55:01 UTC  

hey look, isoflavone metabolism is different in humans

2017-04-02 20:55:01 UTC  

You don't even necessarily need a substitute in tea/coffee

2017-04-02 20:55:05 UTC  

as you are just googling and throwing things out

2017-04-02 20:55:12 UTC  

this is from my link earlier

2017-04-02 20:55:13 UTC  

it makes sense you showed me something about reduced testosterone

2017-04-02 20:55:19 UTC  

yeah, I know

2017-04-02 20:55:35 UTC  

it also says circulating estrogen was not increased

2017-04-02 20:55:39 UTC  

not were sperm counts decreased

2017-04-02 20:55:52 UTC  

why would sperm counts matter?

2017-04-02 20:56:01 UTC  

why would circulating estrogen matter

2017-04-02 20:56:09 UTC  

they are estrogenic chemicals on their own

2017-04-02 20:56:09 UTC  

yeah why would science matter

2017-04-02 20:56:14 UTC  

How do I increase sperm count?

2017-04-02 20:56:16 UTC  

I'm addressing the science

2017-04-02 20:56:27 UTC  

you're just throwing out shit zingers, talk instead

2017-04-02 20:56:34 UTC  

ok