lol 1800s isn't a long time

Soy milk was introduced to the US market by Vitasoy in 1979; the first domestic manufacturer of soy milk was Sunrich Food Group, which introduced its products in 1985.[3]

but I don't care

did all asians develop gyno?

should they?

is there an evil ghost in soy that gives you gyno, or is this one of those things we'd have seen by now?

There bodies are different

the argument isn't that they will get gyno, but the effect of feminzing chemicals

what does it do to you?

we don't know

do these hormones have a psychological effect?

Lactose intolerant asiatics

almost certainly

obviously it didn't keep them from breeding

it's pretty obvious that the entire asian population was not consuming soy milk as an alternative to cow's milk

but it doesn't even matter

yeah science doesn't matter

I agree

jewish lies

drink the full fat

195.5

Indo-euros tend to be able to handle different foods

I'm telling you science, it contains feminizing chemicals (100%)

your meta analysis shows that to date, we have not found it to have obvious feminizing effects in any study

that doesn't mean the topic is well studied

it doesn't mean there is enough data to establish this

on the other hand, we have a case report where causation is quite obviously established

so at least the basic fact that this product contains something, and that something can have an effect

is pretty clear I think

Honestly just have one cup once in a while

now whether this effect is good or bad

I won't argue

I think it's not good

In contrast to the results of some rodent studies, findings from a recently published metaanalysis and subsequently published studies show that neither isoflavone supplements nor isoflavone-rich soy affect total or free testosterone (T) levels. Similarly, there is essentially no evidence from the nine identified clinical studies that isoflavone exposure affects circulating estrogen levels in men. Clinical evidence also indicates that isoflavones have no effect on sperm or semen parameters, although only three intervention studies were identified and none were longer than 3 months in duration. Finally, findings from animal studies suggesting that isoflavones increase the risk of erectile dysfunction are not applicable to men, because of differences in isoflavone metabolism between rodents and humans and the excessively high amount of isoflavones to which the animals were exposed.

hey look, isoflavone metabolism is different in humans

You don't even necessarily need a substitute in tea/coffee

as you are just googling and throwing things out

this is from my link earlier

it makes sense you showed me something about reduced testosterone

yeah, I know

it also says circulating estrogen was not increased