It's almost laughable how they fucked up.

I believe from today's nationalist perspective (levelling of population according to linguistic/political loyalties) that people don't really understand the old Hellenic spirit

Yes, Hellenes too, identified themselves according to language, but no ONLY language

Otherwise they would not consider Macedons to be foreigners

To Spartans for example, mere demagogy meant little

For example, today's Italy can consider Rome it's predecessor, but that is quite conditional - Rome is something to look up to, not something to consider your "national" heritage per se, since every nation is made up from multiple social layers

If you don't uphold values or spirit of Rome, then in what can one find your "allegiance" to Rome? You mere bourgeoisie fascination with Roman art, or intrigues?

Agreed. It is absolutely fine to consider themselves admirers of antiquity, but the moment they begin to identify as the descendants and necessary posterity of those times they begin to break down their legitimacy. At that point where they assume the *racial* mantles of age-old empires they've lost it.

We have so much evidence for population admixture, selection, dysgenics, mutation, and so on that they're just deluding themselves and wasting everyone's times.

No civilization resurfaces in same way or same time

The torch is always carried by the other, which takes the path of emergence, strenghtening

Just as Greece passed torch to Rome, Rome to Franks, Franks to Germans, Germans to Englishmen etc

Obviously there were multiple strong civilizations

Whichever starts selecting for exellency, quality over quantity, get's to carry the torch

Look how many excellent men today, of merit and virtue, marry complete imbeciles today

That's a dysgenic involution of modern times

@The Enlightened Shepherd yes you can notice that in roman portraiture

if you saw augustus on th estreet, you would still recognize him

same with portraits of hellenic era figures

the "classical" ones are not realistic and emphasized

moreover most of the roman emperors were not southern italians but central to northern in descent

so they don't look like "italian" people you see in the US

most of whom are sicilians (who are mostly greek wth lots of north african arab/moor ancestry)

evne someone like titus who looks italian as fuck

http://www.accla.org/images/titus.jpg

he has the euro hairline

Hariline was just a stylized image

It's obvious

well a mix of the m shape and more mediterranean/african image

yes

i nterms of his recession

rarely has any northern person has that curly hair

he is not northern

he looks like a latinate plane italian

take gaius marius for example

he looks like someone who could be from the balkans

gaius marius is obviously from nothern italiy

just looking at him

the same aiwth augustus. caesar lokos more central italy

Germanicus looks like a Frenchman of today

constantine is balkan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great

fahter looks super balkan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantius_Chlorus

totally fucked up family after constantine btw

That whole region is degenerated.

degenerated or degenerate ?

@The Enlightened Shepherd lol

this is hte ugliest jew I have ever seen: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/21/09/2B8BCD3E00000578-3205754-image-a-77_1440145508134.jpg

in the horror of the holocaust, I am glad she/he died

but maybe she/he made sick brownies or something

and was a genetic dead end anyway

IS THAT MARILYN MANSON?

MAN HE GOT FAT

I thought they were all starved to emaciation in the concentration camps.

She's the reason

@Deadbeat NAZI should be in all caps since it is an acronym for Nationaler Sozialismus. It started as am Austrian insult. The causes of WWII are many. Probably just as many as the causes of WWI.

Nazi became a noun

sorry I'm not sorry

@HonorVirtutisPraemium the germans saw that

decided shooting them wasn't enough

Gender also came to be conflated with sex.

GOOD POINTS

DECAY OF LANGUAGE

IS NAZI AN ACRONYM, OR A PHONETIC ABBREVIATION?

I AM TOLD THAT THE FIRST SYLLABLE OF THE FIRST WORD IS PRONOUNCED LIKE NATZ AND SOZIALISMUS IS PRONOUNCED SOCI-ALISMUS SO NATZI SOCI = NATZI = NAZI

Hmmm. That does make more sense. I think. I just seems like it is probably more true, especially because the word was first being used in Austria to give a "girly" air to the German political changes. I think they were particularly put off by the brown shirts and they did not like how Hitler was basically going to make a move on Austria like he did Scandinavia. Weren't they still a Monarchy at the time?

I looked it up, I don't think they even had a ceremonial Monarch. Their first Republic fell just within a decade of Hitler's rise. That probably had a lot to do with a lot didn't it?

Nazi was a term made by a kike journalist and then Goebbels decided to appropriate it on his own in the Nazi-Sozi

Was he Austrian or was Wikipedia just blowing smoke up my ass. Maybe I should just stick with Infogalactic?

Konrad Heiden

He was a Jew.

"Nazi," was already in used prior to Hitler as an insulting term based on Igna(tius) or silly and stupid Italians that acted like peasants.

Sozi was a mocking term for socialists.

Interesting. After looking up Heiden (on wikipedia...addictions die hard, ask the tobacco industry though wikipedia is more toxic) He was an American Jew and considered himself a historian on the Weimar Republic and "Nazi era." My question was answered too, clearly I was wrong about the origins of Nazi and I should probably just not trust etymology likely written by libbies.

nazi sounds better

than calling yourself what you really are

NAZI SOUNDS COOL BECAUSE IT IS SHORT AND HAS A HARSH TONE TO IT

nationalistic fascists

AUSTRIA NEEDS TO BE PART OF GERMANY QUITE HONESTLY

SIMILAR PEOPLES

with fasicsm a close economic cousin of socialism

SO DO CERTAIN OTHER AREAS

I SEE FASCISM MORE LIKE NEOREACTION

EXTREME LIBERTARIANISM

TO AVOID HAVING AN INFORMAL POWER STRUCTURE

OF COURSE

yeah but in practice

the same thing

I GO THE OPPOSITE WAY

loot shit

I LIKE INFORMAL POWER STRUCTURES

spend the shit you loot

run out of shit

like franco

TAX AND SPEND

and argentina

there is nothing to tax as they took it all

THAT IS THE NATURE OF THE MODERN STATE

that happened to hitler

BETTER TO CUT BENEFITS