not above their own

the US is a good example of really rapid growth in its formation

NOT RELATED TO EMPIRE

ENTIRELY INTERNAL

I AM SPEAKING OF EUROPEANS AS A GROUP

but I think it maintained good health for a great period

THINK PRE-GREEK

THEN THINK ABOUT 1100 YEARS AGO

IN THE UK

go on

"removing unnecessary labor" was pretty much the gist of what i was saying

WEALTH LIFTS ALL BOATS

WE ACCEPT THIS LIBERTARIAN PRINCIPLE PERHAPS

SO WHEN A SOCIETY GETS WEALTHY, THE CLUELESS ARE EMPOWERED TOO

THE ONLY THING THAT HOLDS THEM BACK IS...

ARISTOCRACY + CASTE (AKA HIERARCHY)

THEREFORE THEY WANT EGALITARIANISM

BECAUSE THEY WANT TO OVERTHROW THIS ORDER AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, USING THE BENEFITS OF CIVILIZATION THEY TAKE FOR GRANTED

THIS HAS BEEN GRADUALLY OCCURRING FOR 3000 YEARS

PLATO WROTE ABOUT THE GOLDEN AGE OF THE PAST

how does this lead to alienation is the question

it's a reasonable model for cyclical collapse

prosperity -> empower idiots -> breakdown

i recently decided to end a long friendship with someone because they had become toxic from their poor choices; they lived paycheck to paycheck, worked a shitty job, and as a result became empty inside. I think they realized this and took their frustration out on me, and that is what happens day in and day out with people who get themselves in those situations.

fine, no issue

http://www.amerika.org/science/epic-video-game-starcraft-now-free/

DYSFUNCTION AND DIVERSITY LEAD TO ALIENATION

THE BAD WIN, AND THE GOOD LOSE

THAT IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED

PLUS LACK OF COMMON PURPOSE

WHICH IS LOST WITH INDIVIDUALISM

@sampletext alienation can be found among the rich, and among the poor

the busy ones and the wastrels

less so among the stupid, more so among the intelligent

more so among whites, less so among blacks

most people use distractions to divert their attention from the underlying things. What we want are autonomous people.

extreme in hapas

intelligent people have difficulties making money because to do so means they have to betray their morals

and they cant accept that

dysfunction and diversity are not new

alienation is new

technology is new, industry is new, one could blame that for it (though I personally don't accept that, or not entirely)

mass media is new, that's another one

the more removed we are from struggle for the necessities of life, and a feeling that our labors actually are necessary for life, culture - the more we lose meaning.

CULTURE = NECESSARY FOR AUTONOMOUS PEOPLE

the word alienation has some easily understood meanings. People do not have a very good ability to understand what will make them happy.

SHARE PURPOSE

yes!

WE HAVE NOT HAD PURPOSE SINCE WE GAINED WEALTH

totally

POINT OF EARLY SOCIETY: GAIN WEALTH (SO THAT NATURE CANNOT DESTROY US)

THEN WHAT

?

culture

WE EITHER FIND NEW PURPOSE -- RISE ABOVE, SPIRITUAL GOALS, ORDER, GRADUALISM

OR

religion, myth, stories, connection

WE BECOME SERVANTS OF THE MATERIAL ORDER

WHICH WAS PLATO'S POINT

AND OF COURSE

I was arguing on MN alt right yesterday a bit - some of the guys were reifying "progress" for its own sake.

TO SODOMIZE THE WEAK

WHOOF

PROGRESS IS A TRAP

IF HISTORY IS NOT LINEAR, PROGRESS MEANS DECAY

We whites are so great at science, progress!! More of it!

THERE IS ADVANCEMENT IN TECHNOLOGY/KNOWLEDGE

BUT THAT IS NOT PROGRESS

IT IS LEARNING

IT DOES NOT CHANGE WHO WE ARE

I said that tech/science are tools. Nothing more. Some humans are innately curious, but that's an arbitrary value.

good point

but to say that the ability to make great gadgets is some overriding spiritual goal is insane

I could be "going off the rails," but the fact that most modern work is very non-physical is a real problem. Most people require an interface with the raw, sensual, physical word to be sane.

Most modern work is simply too disembodied. It's disgusting.

SOCIAL ORDER IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN KNOWLEDGE PER SE

WE NEED A FUNCTIONALS TRUCTURE

AND A SENSE OF PURPOSE

OR PEOPLE DEGENERATE

yes!

WE LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES

WHEN WE MIGHT CHANGE A 3,000 YEAR OLD FUCKUP

god i hope so

DEPUSSIFY WHITE PEOPLE

I'm never happier than when I up north, building a fire, smelling the wood smoke, hunting, cleaning fish, working on an old motor... but that's maybe my old-fashioned embeddedness. I grew up before VR.

nothing is more frustrating than watching the world go to hell around you every day and no one doing anything about it besides making it worse...not just for themselves, but for everyone else too

I suspect the correction will be quite traumatic and bloody.

If Brett's criticism of crowdism is right

Then nothing can be done about the crowd neither can it be simply conquered

If crowd can be manipulated the Hitler way perhaps we have some sort of temporary solution

Understand this however - majority of people have no capacity for any change and no amount of memes will solve that

If you convince them to become anti-egalitarians, they will become the wrong kind of anti-egalitarians who still don't get anything

relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x4QfXf1yl4

I got a feeling today, not too long ago

not based on anything

that Macron will lose

I'm not a big Le Pen fan, but like Trump it's more about what she represents

the power of such figures is killing despair and apathy

we're never going to change the system from within