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2017-04-25 14:32:19 UTC

even in the throes of decay, alienation was never a feature of the human experience

2017-04-25 14:32:28 UTC

do you accept that?

2017-04-25 14:32:31 UTC

people working 9-5 jobs know deep down what they do is stupid, but they go through a series of mental gymnastics to rationalize it internally so that they dont have to face reality

2017-04-25 14:32:41 UTC

and they have plenty of distractions to help them with this

2017-04-25 14:33:09 UTC

sex and the city, green day, the walking dead, etc.

2017-04-25 14:33:17 UTC

maybe that's half true, is the life of a family man, a salary man really so unhealthy and pointless?

2017-04-25 14:33:18 UTC

and yes i do

2017-04-25 14:33:25 UTC

yes it is

2017-04-25 14:33:32 UTC

as the saying goes: jobs are jail

2017-04-25 14:33:33 UTC

I think that's pretty silly, on its face

2017-04-25 14:33:44 UTC

jobs can be jail and that can still be wrong

2017-04-25 14:33:53 UTC

jobs are jail, but work is not

2017-04-25 14:33:58 UTC

obligations are jail

2017-04-25 14:34:29 UTC

there's everything right about being a family man obviously, but when your life is controlled by an employer and your very livelihood is in thrall to it, then there exists a control mechanism

2017-04-25 14:34:30 UTC

there is freedom in the yoke, you serve your family and free yourself

2017-04-25 14:34:41 UTC

human beings, as well as all creatures, desire freedom naturally

2017-04-25 14:34:41 UTC

whereas if you attempt a different kind of "freedom", an absolute one

2017-04-25 14:34:46 UTC

escape your obligations

2017-04-25 14:34:54 UTC

you instead fall under a different yoke, of your ego etc.

2017-04-25 14:35:13 UTC

obligations =/= working a dead end job thinking you're doing good for the wold

2017-04-25 14:35:16 UTC

they desire freedom, accepted, but what is freedom

2017-04-25 14:35:29 UTC

I think it's pretty obvious that most people don't work thinking about the big picture

2017-04-25 14:35:32 UTC

THE POINT IS THAT WE CAN MAKE LIFE MORE SIGNIFICANT FOR THE SALARY MAN

2017-04-25 14:35:37 UTC

BY MAKING JOBS BETTER

2017-04-25 14:35:40 UTC

BY REMOVING UNNECESSARY LABOR

2017-04-25 14:35:44 UTC

sure, sure

2017-04-25 14:35:49 UTC

INCLUDING THAT MANDATED TO PAY FOR THE TAX BASE THAT FUNDS LEFTIST PROGRAMS

2017-04-25 14:35:54 UTC

REMOVE LEFTISM, LIFE GETS BETTER

2017-04-25 14:36:06 UTC

I've sort of gone off the rails

2017-04-25 14:36:18 UTC

the point I wanted to make is that in modern times there is a specific issue

2017-04-25 14:36:34 UTC

I won't say what it is, but the symptoms of that specific issue are evident

2017-04-25 14:36:36 UTC

and are unprecedented

2017-04-25 14:36:50 UTC

EGALITARIANISM

2017-04-25 14:36:51 UTC

THE ONE ISSUE

2017-04-25 14:36:53 UTC

REMOVE THAT

2017-04-25 14:36:54 UTC

since the issue is specific and unprecedented

2017-04-25 14:36:55 UTC

RESTORE SANITY

2017-04-25 14:36:57 UTC

THE EGO RAGES

2017-04-25 14:37:01 UTC

THROUGH INDIVIDUALISM

2017-04-25 14:37:01 UTC

so must be the solution

2017-04-25 14:37:03 UTC

WHICH TAKES FORM

2017-04-25 14:37:05 UTC

AS EGALITARIANISM

2017-04-25 14:37:05 UTC

egality, individualism, ego

2017-04-25 14:37:08 UTC

are not unprecedented

2017-04-25 14:37:17 UTC

THEY KILL EVERY SOCIETY

2017-04-25 14:37:24 UTC

them being free in a raging way is unprecedented

2017-04-25 14:37:28 UTC

but it would be symptom

2017-04-25 14:37:28 UTC

NOT UNPRECEDENTED, BUT A CONSTANT THREAT

2017-04-25 14:37:31 UTC

DECAY DOES THAT

2017-04-25 14:37:33 UTC

WE GREW TOO FAST

2017-04-25 14:37:37 UTC

THEN ENCOUNTERED SOME PITFALLS

2017-04-25 14:37:39 UTC

THEN GOT WEAKENED

2017-04-25 14:37:42 UTC

okay, so that's something concrete

2017-04-25 14:37:44 UTC

BLAME THE BLACK PLAGUE

2017-04-25 14:37:44 UTC

"we grew too fast"

2017-04-25 14:37:46 UTC

BUT EVEN MORE

2017-04-25 14:37:48 UTC

WEALTH

2017-04-25 14:37:48 UTC

so the issue is the scale of society?

2017-04-25 14:37:51 UTC

NO

2017-04-25 14:37:56 UTC

THE ISSUE IS FAST GROWTH

2017-04-25 14:38:00 UTC

GRADUALISM WINS

2017-04-25 14:38:03 UTC

RADICAL CHANGE IS DEATH

2017-04-25 14:38:09 UTC

INDIVIDUALISM WAS ALWAYS THE THREAT

2017-04-25 14:38:13 UTC

BUT WE GREW SO QUICKLY

2017-04-25 14:38:20 UTC

WE COULD NOT COUNTER IT

2017-04-25 14:38:20 UTC

ALSO

2017-04-25 14:38:24 UTC

PEOPLE WERE NOT MERCILESS

2017-04-25 14:38:32 UTC

REBELLIOUS SERFS NEEDED TO BE KILLED ONE AND ALL

2017-04-25 14:38:36 UTC

NOT EXILED TO THE EAST

2017-04-25 14:38:48 UTC

with all due respect, that doesn't sound like analysis

2017-04-25 14:39:01 UTC

sounds like polemic

2017-04-25 14:39:03 UTC

IT IS ANALYSIS

2017-04-25 14:39:08 UTC

FAST GROWTH PRODUCES PROBLEMS

2017-04-25 14:39:13 UTC

THIS IS WHY IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN OPPOSED

2017-04-25 14:39:17 UTC

GRADUALISM RECOGNIZES COMPLEXITY

2017-04-25 14:39:20 UTC

FAST GROWTH DOES NOT

2017-04-25 14:39:20 UTC

BUT

2017-04-25 14:39:22 UTC

what's special about fast growth now, as opposed to in the past?

2017-04-25 14:39:23 UTC

BENEFITS THE INDIVIDUAL

2017-04-25 14:39:26 UTC

RISE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS

2017-04-25 14:39:30 UTC

I AM SPEAKING OF IN THE PAST

2017-04-25 14:39:37 UTC

ACCELERATING OVER THE PAST 3000 YEARS OR SO

2017-04-25 14:39:37 UTC

and what is the mechanism of growth that results in alienation anyway?

2017-04-25 14:39:52 UTC

okay, so we grew too fast beyond hunter gatherer brains?

2017-04-25 14:39:56 UTC

GROWTH = MORE AUTONOMY TO THE RELATIVELY NOT THAT GOOD

2017-04-25 14:39:56 UTC

is that the gist of it?

2017-04-25 14:39:59 UTC

NO

2017-04-25 14:40:02 UTC

NOT PRIMITIVISM

2017-04-25 14:40:12 UTC

SOCIETY GREW TOO FAST

2017-04-25 14:40:15 UTC

THIS EMPOWERED DUMMIES

2017-04-25 14:40:24 UTC

INSTEAD OF KEEPING A TIGHT REIN ON WHAT WAS BEING ADDED TO THAT SOCIETY

2017-04-25 14:40:27 UTC

that would explain things not working well

2017-04-25 14:40:34 UTC

doesn't explain alienation or anomie

2017-04-25 14:40:39 UTC

BASICALLY CREATING A FORM OF INTERNAL DIVERSITY

2017-04-25 14:40:42 UTC

WHICH DOES EXPLAIN THAT

2017-04-25 14:40:43 UTC

ALSO

2017-04-25 14:40:45 UTC

LACK OF PURPOSE

2017-04-25 14:40:55 UTC

WITH GROWTH, GOAL DE FACTO SHIFTS TO "LET'S TAKE CARE OF ALL THESE PEOPLE"

2017-04-25 14:41:27 UTC

I don't think that follows, the British Empire wouldn't be too arsed about taking care of all these people for instance

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