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2018-09-11 23:11:06 UTC

Secularism is a disease and a hedonistic lifestile

2018-09-11 23:11:14 UTC

12:11am lemme finish this damn essay nigger

2018-09-11 23:13:03 UTC

@TradChad how the fuck is it ok to be secular and christian

2018-09-11 23:16:23 UTC

Mark 12:17

2018-09-11 23:16:23 UTC

**Mark 12:17 - New King James Version (NKJV)**

```Dust


<17> And Jesus answered and said to them, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."And they marveled at Him. ```

2018-09-11 23:16:30 UTC

John 18:36

2018-09-11 23:16:30 UTC

**John 18:36 - New King James Version (NKJV)**

```Dust


<36> Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here."```

2018-09-11 23:16:50 UTC

1 Peter 2:17

2018-09-11 23:16:51 UTC

**1 Peter 2:17 - New King James Version (NKJV)**

```Dust


<17> Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king. ```

2018-09-11 23:17:19 UTC

secularism is what made christianity die

2018-09-11 23:17:21 UTC

admit it

2018-09-11 23:17:44 UTC

iโ€™d rather live in a christian theocracy than a shit secular state

2018-09-11 23:17:58 UTC

man i wish europe was still a christian theocracy not some secular trash

2018-09-11 23:17:59 UTC

the most Christian state in the world separates church and state

2018-09-11 23:18:47 UTC

gay and bluepilled

2018-09-11 23:50:56 UTC

I don't see what's wrong with wearing a hijab

2018-09-11 23:51:56 UTC

And actually Muslim women's who wear the hijab they wore it cause they wanted to nobody told them

2018-09-12 12:06:49 UTC

it's stockholm syndrome

2018-09-12 20:33:57 UTC

This stuff is going out of stock. If you wanna be as healthy of a boomer as me, you need this stuff.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486385308951379968/489534154753703946/IWL-Survival-Shield-X-2-1281_1_.png

2018-09-12 20:48:54 UTC

What's wrong with ADL

2018-09-12 21:09:54 UTC

>what's wrong with ADL

2018-09-12 21:10:07 UTC

Sounds like you don't know what ((ADL)) is

2018-09-12 21:10:13 UTC

If you did you wouldn't be asking that

2018-09-12 21:10:40 UTC

Unless it's majestic British sarcasm, then I salute you cheeky bastard.

2018-09-12 21:25:14 UTC

I know it's a Jewish foundation based off anti Semitism

2018-09-12 22:50:46 UTC

And here's why you don't trust the US govt.

2018-09-12 22:50:53 UTC

I've been telling all the Trump memes.

2018-09-13 03:51:37 UTC

Alex Jones is such a fag.

2018-09-13 03:53:07 UTC

why

2018-09-13 05:14:53 UTC

He played the victim when he confronted Marco Rubio

2018-09-13 10:28:07 UTC
2018-09-13 15:53:30 UTC

Did anyone see what the Dalai Lama said about Europe?

Talk about BASED. This man is based to the extreme.

2018-09-13 16:18:53 UTC

I would be willing to debate moral relativism sometimes.

2018-09-13 20:11:52 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486385308951379968/489890984034041856/6920d6515cf949f528f44a6a2820e489.png

2018-09-13 21:20:27 UTC

@DJRacks Are you a moral relativist?

2018-09-13 21:21:34 UTC

I am begnning to think it is plausible

2018-09-13 21:23:09 UTC

how can a muslim be a relativist

2018-09-13 21:38:25 UTC

a moral relativist not an epistemological relativist

2018-09-13 23:00:21 UTC

@Richard Rock if you wanna debate we can debate

2018-09-13 23:00:50 UTC

what do you want to debate

2018-09-13 23:01:30 UTC

What is your standard of truth?

2018-09-13 23:02:03 UTC

through scripture, philosophical understanding, meditative practice/contemplation

2018-09-13 23:02:16 UTC

What is your worldview based on?

2018-09-13 23:02:36 UTC

What is your worldview?

2018-09-13 23:03:00 UTC

It is called Dharma, it is the first organized religion on this planet. It originates in what is now called India, but then was populated with Indo-Europeans, who later spread and founded Europe.

2018-09-13 23:03:23 UTC

We believe in one God, in a trinity of sorts.

2018-09-13 23:03:40 UTC

It's actually similar to traditional Christianity in many ways, but also different in that we offer a lot more metaphysical understanding.

2018-09-13 23:03:45 UTC

And more philosophical takes on things.

2018-09-13 23:04:00 UTC

What is your holy scripture?

2018-09-13 23:04:27 UTC

There's many. It would take your entire life to read it all. Mostly though Rig Veda, Bhavishya Purana, Bhagavad Gita etc.

2018-09-13 23:04:34 UTC

Bhagavad Gita is prob the most relevant to this age

2018-09-13 23:04:55 UTC

Who wrote them?

2018-09-13 23:05:34 UTC

various masters and Brahmin caste priests who have passed down these teachings in much the same way that semitic scripture was, initially through memory and verbal repeating, then was written down

2018-09-13 23:06:04 UTC

Were they all knowledgeable?

2018-09-13 23:06:50 UTC

Yes, the texts are very rigorous too. Often introducing topics which you might learn in a graduate philosophy course in university now.

2018-09-13 23:06:59 UTC

We however don't seek to convert people

2018-09-13 23:07:11 UTC

because we don't believe in a linear conception of life, we believe in reincarnation

2018-09-13 23:07:18 UTC

Was the yes to that the Brahmins were all knowledgeable?

2018-09-13 23:07:36 UTC

certainly some could make mistakes, but the scriptures are passed down from divinity

2018-09-13 23:07:59 UTC

Surya a deva (something like the western angel) passed this down to the first man (literally called Manush).

2018-09-13 23:07:59 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486385308951379968/489935307459002370/1482504929130.jpg

2018-09-13 23:08:09 UTC

The etymology of the word man basically comes from the sanskrit Manush.

2018-09-13 23:08:22 UTC

And all European language stems from ancient Vedic sanskrit.

2018-09-13 23:08:40 UTC

I have heard that myth.

2018-09-13 23:08:45 UTC

Before.

2018-09-13 23:08:45 UTC

it's not a myth

2018-09-13 23:08:50 UTC

But that is a tanget.

2018-09-13 23:09:06 UTC

When were these books written?

2018-09-13 23:09:23 UTC

Exactly.

2018-09-13 23:09:39 UTC

the estimates vary from 1500-6000 years ago, depending on whether you take sculptures in temples as writings as well

2018-09-13 23:09:42 UTC

bc

2018-09-13 23:10:00 UTC

the earliest I think was written right around when Christ was around

2018-09-13 23:10:12 UTC

there are actually Dharmic writings being written today too, but it's mostly commentary

2018-09-13 23:10:14 UTC

Give me the date of the holy scriptures from which you extrapolate your morals for example. When were they written?

2018-09-13 23:10:15 UTC

on the old scripture

2018-09-13 23:10:54 UTC

@Richard Rock Rig Veda has a lot of duties. Basically monogamy, anti homosexuality, anti adultery, anti pederasty, pro large family building, anti mixing races and blood etc.

2018-09-13 23:11:13 UTC

Okay, who exactly wrote it, when and where?

2018-09-13 23:11:36 UTC

many many people, you can google the succession of Brahmin masters and gurus

2018-09-13 23:12:04 UTC

Were they all deemed to be all-knowledgeable?

2018-09-13 23:12:09 UTC

the most recent translation of the Bhagavad Gita in its authentic form was done by the last traditional Guru I know of Prabhupada

2018-09-13 23:12:28 UTC

not all knowledgeable, but the scriptures had passed down from Surya, and other devas

2018-09-13 23:12:34 UTC

a deva is basically an angel of God

2018-09-13 23:12:35 UTC

a servant

2018-09-13 23:13:09 UTC

Sir, are you tellling me that you are getting your morals from non-all knowledgeable fallable men?

2018-09-13 23:13:10 UTC

Also the rules and duties depend on the age you live in

2018-09-13 23:13:29 UTC

in our age, the Kali Yuga, most duties which were given to past age peoples could not even be followed because of our low lifespans

2018-09-13 23:14:01 UTC

No, ultimately this knowledge all comes from God. The Bhagavad Gita contains within it a physical manifestation of God, who lectures the great warrior Arjuna on piety and morals.

2018-09-13 23:14:34 UTC

The Gita is the most relevant because it is a way for us to liberate ourselves from the material illusory world in this age, the Kali Yuga or the age of wickedness and sin.

2018-09-13 23:16:49 UTC

Did Arjuna write the Bhagavad Gita down?

2018-09-13 23:17:37 UTC

Was he all knowledgeable, or did God, make him, by his almighty power, not forget what he was learned.

2018-09-13 23:17:56 UTC

Sage Veda Vyasa did.

2018-09-13 23:18:34 UTC

@Richard Rock it's by God's influence that the scriptures continue to circulate

2018-09-13 23:18:41 UTC

Was Sage Veda Vyasa all knowledgeable?

2018-09-13 23:18:50 UTC

no

2018-09-13 23:19:01 UTC

From whom did he get his knowledge? Arjuna?

2018-09-13 23:20:09 UTC

Arjuna was the Prince at the time

2018-09-13 23:20:15 UTC

Look here, what I am looking for is this, if I ask the Christian the same questions, he will tell me that his moral guideness is the bible. The bible was a revelation inspired by God and written 2000 years ago.

2018-09-13 23:20:31 UTC

Yes, we believe that our scriptures are divinely inspired as well

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