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hes good
Trump is a pussy liberal bitch
He's not conservative enough for you?
My personal politics don't align well with Trump. He has proven decently capable to get some things he wants done, but being a total asshole has hurt him. Republicans should have sweeped 2018, but Trump and the populist's combativeness is driving people away.
Mine also dont align the best
But since im liberterian i go 4 him
How do your voter blocs line up with the Republicans
Trump is not my president
If you live in he usa he is
@Tyberius D what
I dont i live in the UK. Got ya
I didnt get ya
How does the voter blocks line up with your interests?
Iโm Hispanic and black and I am heavily conservative.
There's always an exception to the rule.
You must love your populists cohorts btw
Yeah definitely
@Tyberius D source your image
Me
You made the image?
Yes
Would you please show your sources? I'd like to see the rest of the context :)
It's my political voter bloc assessment. As far as sources for why I think these voter blocs are the way they, I go mainly by exit polls which I have pulled from NYT, CNN, and FOX (take them all with a bag of salt) Here's the files:
Alright thanks :)
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perspective from European: trump is ok
Ja
He is the good guy
Change my mind
He is a lier, who doesn't understand an ounce of history, who cannot put aside his ego or greed, that is wrecking the American hegemony, and doesn't have a plan.
Neat
So basically he has the makings of a great politician
If he had the skill, knowledge, and experience I might give you that.
oh and dont forget the iPlane
thats the type of shit you search up on youtube at 11 years old at midnight
What?
Ok now I want an iPlane 1
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~~airforce11~~
iPlane1
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Trump is a god among gods he beat 16 veteran conservatives and beat out two of the biggest dynastyโs the clintons and the bushes and he won with no political experience just the shows I mean Fox News lol
And then lost the house because he is a wanker
Atleast he wasnโt like Obama who lost the house by even more and the senate same for Clinton in his first midterm
Lost the house
Lol that happens since like 1928 in mid terms
That means f.all
He actually gained in the senate
Which is a testament to how well he is doing
100% true and you know what the media only talked about how he lost in the house that is fake news only taking about one side
Media is super fake
Gaining even 1 seat is historic and he gained 3 in the senate I believe
Could they be any more biased
Never forget what they did to Kavanaugh Duke lacrosse and trump
Whatโs drumf doing now
Orange man bad
Yea that was super low
Fuck the media
And the democrats
Remember how now they praise H.W. bush as a great man and back in his time called him weak and a horrible president
They only do that now to make themselves look good
Democrats are two faced snakes
There hardline partisan democrats that only report the other side when there is no choice or it makes them look goodness
*good
Alright I have to go Iโm glad I joined this discord
Take it easy good sir
@Kenpachi so he is just like every other President? Gee, wish other folks could see that.
@beyond_gravity gained 2 seats when 10 states he won were on the table (most up for reelection were democrats.) Both states we're heavily conservative.
*why do I see the south rising again...*
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No he is doing better then other presidents winning seats in a first midterm is huge
Not really, but Dems should have gotten stomped. Reason above all else is the man is a complete asshole and picks fights where he doesn't need to. Already ran 1/8th of his collation out.
Lol you will be scratching your head when he wins in 2020 and I will never forget what Obama said keep your plan keep your doctor oh wait that never happened lol
And they did get stomped 2016 winning house senate presidency now 2018 republican senate and presidency and only lost 40 seats compared to Obamaโs 60 seat lose in the house
People always forget that the New York Times and others have trump a 2% chance of winning and not even Fox News has the president winning in the electoral college and he shocked the world that day by winning a historic 320 electoral votes I will never forget that great day and he lit the flame of the Trump Era
Lmao
Iโll never forget the day that he shocked the world he beat two dynastyโs that day the clintons and the bushes to get that far
Thatโs the best every single person in the mainstream media said this guy was going to lose lol and guess what they said about Kavanaugh he will never be on the court and guess what they are saying now he will lose in 2020 lol
Itโs funny I live in Wisconsin and going to school people always tell me well the majority of people hate this guy and I always remind them that the majority of people in our state voted to make this guy our leader god bless Wisconsin please again in 2020
If he can stop running people out of his collation he can easily win. However, his divide and conquer strategy cost him the house when he should have gained more seats.
If he continues to be a complete asshole, he will lose 2020 (unless the Dems run Gillibrand)
This shit isn't hard to figure out, don't piss off your allies.
the president always loses the house
He SHOULDN'T have
bruh
have you looked at the history?
everybody does
Hello, I just joined this chat
Are you guys republicans or liberals? Just wanna know
Hello, so basically... you have anime pic, what are you? a weeaboo? and Im neither a liberal nor republican.
I like dat bad mustache man
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The dude is presiding over an awesome economy, over half of his things he set out to do done, and his opposing party in political disarray. Republicans should have swept 2018 what's a 60 seat sentate and a 300 house Congress
And I still dont support him, he failed to deliver the wall.
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Best thing he missed
naah
Im definitely a weaboo
Nah I just play Fortnite lol sheโs a character from fortnite
THIS AINT NO FORTNITE CHARACTER
***KARL, GET ZE ZYKLON B!!!***
And mcbacoon youโre right , where tf is the wall
He canโt just say things he not gon do , that wall shouldโve already started construction
No one worth their salt wants the wall. Not only is it very expensively pissing into the wind, its the exact opposite of how you fix immigration
love trump hate libs get tits
@Tyberius D how do you fix immigration papa?
if you explain it to me in detail, I will let you fist me papa
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Capital invest in Central America. NAFTA brought Mexican immigration into emmigration, but CAFTA has failed to get results. Needs a revision.
Thatโs why trump made the USMCA to fix it
USMCA doesn't effect CAFTA, it's NAFTA 1.1
Doesn't slove the problem
How about shut down the government unless there is money for the wall?๐
Then shut it down
Yay!
We finally agree on something!
I really don't think so. I'd shut down the government so you didn't get your wall
๐ญ it's like top 10 anime betrayals all over again
@NobleBeing depends on who makes the list. Fuck watch mojo
Yeah not much of a watch mojo guy myself they kinda bias
Biased? They just aren't anime fans
Exactly
It will happen they will get the 5billion and it will be built just wait thatโs my prediction
Not with Dems in the house. It's the last thing they would compromise on.
I think that it will be very unpopular if they do that it will show that they donโt care about the security of our nation and all they care about is how they look
Itโs about which side will it hurt more and that will decide who will cave in
I don't think you're picking up the sentiment of the moderates or the left. The left assumes, incorrectly, the immigration is their lifeblood. The moderates are the people that can actually do math, and about 60% think it is absolutely pissing into the wind.
Yeah I hope gets the wall I mean it only benefits everyone because people must come here legally to our country there are so many great immigrants but they must not come illegally
Walls 100% effective just ask Troy
trump is my senpai
Daddy trump
What do trumpers have to say when yall say Go Back to Africa and they're from Africa?
My girlfriend is from Mombasa. Thoughts?
Keep it a civil discourse please. I genuinely want to hear your thoughts on the matter
@Kenpachi wall only will benefit those who build it or patrol it. In the end it will cause a humanitarian disaster.
No there are many countries that have built a wall and there illegal immigration went way down the border patrol agents say that a wall is needed it is better to ask the people whoโs job it is every day
How will it cause a humanitarian disaster that people canโt come into the country illegally @Tyberius D do u think it is a better idea to have open borders and a good idea for people to cross in illegally to our country?
@Kenpachi Have you not seen Gaza or the Berlin Wall? Hell, Gaza has a tunnel discovery every week.
It will be a disaster because all the progress we have made in given economic mobility to Mexico will drained away. Don't build the wall, Update CAFTA and make it work. Immigration solved, permanently.
So how do u patch the holes on our southern border by talking no we need a strong wall on our southern border to stop illegals, drug dealers, terrorists from coming over and to let the great immigrants come to this country legally
-,- I like how no one answers me. I wasnt being a troll
Lol sorry
What do you think @Eamon do we need the border wall to stop illegal immigration
If there are holes or areas that are broken on our southern border people will be able to break in illegally itโs like the roads when they are broken we fix them Democratโs donโt understand that fact for the wall though they are for open borders and not securing our great country
@Kenpachi you don't need to patch the holes if you remove people's desire to immigrate
So you agree that we shouldnโt patch the holes on our roads to say that we should not patch something on our southern border that a terrorist could come in and have already killed innocent Americans our people and citizens donโt they have the right to be protected?
@Tyberius D if your house was right next to that unpatched wall I know dam sure you would want a 30 foot wall there protecting u and your family whatโs so wrong with that?
Plus there is no way to stop peopleโs desire to immigrante to the US we are the number one country that is just ignorant
@Kenpachi i agree mate
Thanks @jeff4121999 just imagine the fear of the people living on the border that there isnโt enough to protect the good people of our country we should build the wall to make sure people come to our country legally that is our first job to protect the people of our country
Exactly
Like Nancy Pelosi said he doesnt have the votes
Throwing a man tantrum wont get him his wall either
With what you said before
@Kenpachi roads and the wall is totally false equivalency. A few murders have crossed, but it's a drop in the bucket and absolutely not worth a trillion dollars to stop a handful of folks (sounds like Afghanistan now that I think of it.)
I wouldn't put a house within a hundred miles of the border. It's some of the worst terrain on the continent, it's why the border is there.
Yes, there is a way to stop people from wanting immigrate to the United States. They need jobs and to have happy productive lives. People don't pack up all their shit and walk thousands of miles to get here because they're happy. Look at the numbers of Mexico, more people now go from the US to Mexico than vice versa, NAFTA worked! Fix CAFTA and this problem is over.
then... why are there still mexicans coming from Mexico?
may I introduce you to a concept called ***corruption***
some people are coming from Mexico due to the drug war.. and the Mexican goverment itself is shit and corrupt
and not corrupt by real estate developers
but by drug cartels
you think El-Chapo has no money to hand out?
@McBacoon they aren't. They are from the Central American States.
Corruption is a given anywhere you go.
Do you think I don't have money to hand out?
yeah, I dont think you have a few millions to give a bribe to some official
The more illigal immigrants, the better
Illegal *
Dude not this stupid argument again
Walls are not 100 ๐ฏ percent effective
So we should just not build them
Or any other ways of stopping people from coming in
Yea perfect liberal logic there
@Tyberius D what say you
Should we remove you front door because burglers can find a way in if they try hard enough?
Why lock your house then
Or even have doors
Why not just let people walk into@your house whenever they want
What difference does it make right ?
I am sending all the Mexicans to your back yard
Since you donโt mind
A few extra
@beyond_gravity you wanker. It's not the effectiveness of the wall that I have an issue with. It's the fact that you could fight the desire for people to immigrate here in the first place. It's like a doctor treating the symptom, but not the disease. It's f****** stupid.
How do you intend on treating that?
Itโs a not a illness
Itโs a desire
You canโt treat desires
Say I want to steal your car tomorrow
How we going to stop that
You canโt
But if you had a good security system
I canโt steal it
You canโt fix desires bro
Read the conversation above. You give the Central Americans economic opportunities and jobs, they will stay there. People don't get up and walk thousands of miles to a land that speaks a different language because they're happy. It worked in Mexico, it will work for the rest.
I get that but we have no control over Central America
So itโs pie in the sky thinking
How do you mean it worked in Mexico ?
Did America do that or Mexico themselves ?
Anyone who leaves their own country looking for an illegal better life at the expense of the host nation is a deserter to their homeland and a free loader
just to fuck with you all but
```Dude not this stupid argument again
Walls are not 100 :100: percent effective
So we should just not build them```
condoms also arent 100% effective
lmao
So
so should we stop using them?
Well still use them
Exactly
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Thatโs my point ???
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No he thinks we should just ask the people not to have sex in the first place
Or like go to a scissors club or something
@beyond_gravity scissor me daddy
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You got it babe
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Shiver me timbers
Hospital treatments are expensive and donโt always work
Best we better let you die
Or pray for a miracle
sword fight?
:/
No maybe if the person just had good nutrition
They wouldnโt get sick
Right thatโs how it works isnโt it?
That way we can keep our hospitals empty
And pray the ghey away
I do agree to you that they need to fix their own shit
But in the meantime borders work
@beyond_gravity control is not the point.
What happened to Mexico is they got NAFTA. Huge amount of American investment money came in and helped them build factories, schools, and services.
There is now over a trillion dollars worth of trade that goes back and forth across that border. And Mexico has been one of the fastest growing economies the last 10 years. Is there a second world country, nothing like what the media would like you to think.
The problem for Central America is, CAFTA failed because it wasn't implemented correctly. Give it a revision and years to work, immigration will no longer be an issue for the Americans.
@McBacoon that's a well made point
Fair enough
So just invest in them?
Seems somewhat too easy
@beyond_gravity yeah, is that stupidly simple. The problem is we picked the wrong people to invest in (China being number 1.)
Things here at home or going to get problematic for investments, but come 2035 we'll have plenty of money to invest again.
why isnt Haiti member of CAFTA?
1) They haven't asked as far as I am aware.
2) They have a strong anti-american group in their politics.
lmao
they poor
I watched some kind of a documentary of how people from Haiti go to Dominican
every day
in the early morning hours
to the markets
but Dominican is supposedly quite... racist
and they dont want to let them in aswell
but yeah... how to stay poor 101: fucc amurica
"How to stay poor 101: Fuck America"
Best damn thing you ever typed.
I fucking hate my country
@peachy which is?
America
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