With what you said before

@Kenpachi roads and the wall is totally false equivalency. A few murders have crossed, but it's a drop in the bucket and absolutely not worth a trillion dollars to stop a handful of folks (sounds like Afghanistan now that I think of it.)

I wouldn't put a house within a hundred miles of the border. It's some of the worst terrain on the continent, it's why the border is there.

Yes, there is a way to stop people from wanting immigrate to the United States. They need jobs and to have happy productive lives. People don't pack up all their shit and walk thousands of miles to get here because they're happy. Look at the numbers of Mexico, more people now go from the US to Mexico than vice versa, NAFTA worked! Fix CAFTA and this problem is over.

then... why are there still mexicans coming from Mexico?

may I introduce you to a concept called ***corruption***

some people are coming from Mexico due to the drug war.. and the Mexican goverment itself is shit and corrupt

and not corrupt by real estate developers

but by drug cartels

you think El-Chapo has no money to hand out?

@McBacoon they aren't. They are from the Central American States.

Corruption is a given anywhere you go.

Do you think I don't have money to hand out?

yeah, I dont think you have a few millions to give a bribe to some official

The more illigal immigrants, the better

Illegal *

Dude not this stupid argument again

Walls are not 100 💯 percent effective

So we should just not build them

Or any other ways of stopping people from coming in

Yea perfect liberal logic there

@Tyberius D what say you

Should we remove you front door because burglers can find a way in if they try hard enough?

Why lock your house then

Or even have doors

Why not just let people walk into@your house whenever they want

What difference does it make right ?

I am sending all the Mexicans to your back yard

Since you don’t mind

A few extra

@beyond_gravity you wanker. It's not the effectiveness of the wall that I have an issue with. It's the fact that you could fight the desire for people to immigrate here in the first place. It's like a doctor treating the symptom, but not the disease. It's f****** stupid.

How do you intend on treating that?

It’s a not a illness

It’s a desire

You can’t treat desires

Say I want to steal your car tomorrow

How we going to stop that

You can’t

But if you had a good security system

I can’t steal it

You can’t fix desires bro

Read the conversation above. You give the Central Americans economic opportunities and jobs, they will stay there. People don't get up and walk thousands of miles to a land that speaks a different language because they're happy. It worked in Mexico, it will work for the rest.

I get that but we have no control over Central America

So it’s pie in the sky thinking

How do you mean it worked in Mexico ?