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2019-02-24 12:58:51 UTC

Some party fuckers or the traditional kingdom clans?

2019-02-24 12:59:52 UTC

Wouldn't mind either if they drop their cheating and copying after

2019-02-24 13:02:13 UTC

I would

2019-02-24 13:06:23 UTC

"Cheating and copying", my ass. Free market capitalism, baby. If they can make a product of similar quality and NOT charge a 10,000% markup over material cost, I'll happily give my money to them

2019-02-24 13:15:16 UTC

Oh fuck

2019-02-24 13:15:20 UTC

Space Jam 2 is a thing

2019-02-24 13:15:35 UTC

"H-how will we pay our executives outrageous salaries if we don't artificially stop people from making the same thing we make, but cheaper?"

2019-02-24 13:17:54 UTC

"okay guys, I came up with the idea for this widget. It costs $1000, and since I had the idea first, nobody else is allowed to make it, okay?"
"Hey I can make Widgets too, but I can make them for $400! They're the same, functionally, but I trimmed the fat"
"OMG this is theft"

2019-02-24 13:33:51 UTC

Based matt

2019-02-24 13:36:22 UTC

i agree with matthew tho

2019-02-24 13:36:29 UTC

patents are bullshit

2019-02-24 13:36:39 UTC

and their abuse even more so

2019-02-24 13:37:07 UTC

Thank the burgers for that

2019-02-24 13:37:19 UTC

patents are good in a 2year range or so

2019-02-24 13:37:59 UTC

But as soon as it gets massacred into allowing design/forms to be patented it's just ridiculed by everyone

2019-02-24 13:46:05 UTC

even 2 years is long time with current steps we take in automation and invention

2019-02-24 13:46:37 UTC

Yeah, but the intend is to reward innovation not everyone creeping to copy each other

2019-02-24 13:46:39 UTC

and there still exists questions if patents are benetifical for invention or hinderance

2019-02-24 13:47:26 UTC

even with "copying" there would be different implementations and so on and so forth

2019-02-24 13:47:43 UTC

and they would need to research manufacturing etc themselves what would lead to innovations too

2019-02-24 13:48:02 UTC

sadly we just cant know which way is better for future

2019-02-24 13:49:37 UTC

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even with "copying" there would be different implementations and so on and so forth
and they would need to research manufacturing etc themselves what would lead to innovations too
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2019-02-24 13:50:02 UTC

Yes, that's exactly what we're seeing the chinks doing

2019-02-24 13:50:19 UTC

Great innovation all the way

2019-02-24 13:53:28 UTC

last time i checked due chink copying we have taken quite bit steps forward

2019-02-24 13:53:52 UTC

any tech device what tries to be better than other with new forms of gimmicks etc ?

2019-02-24 13:54:50 UTC

cheaper lab equipment what has caused leaps on material and chemical fronts

2019-02-24 13:54:51 UTC

etc etc

2019-02-24 13:56:24 UTC

failure to implement certain things properly has gotten us some stuff too

2019-02-24 13:57:37 UTC

afaik RCWL-somethingsomethingnumbers is one of such "accidents

2019-02-24 13:58:36 UTC

and the all the new ways to measure fat,heart rate etc etc are mostly reason of trying to copy/experiment on tech that someone else has already made and so on and so forth

2019-02-24 14:00:57 UTC

I'm preparing the absolute poverty lunch

2019-02-24 14:01:03 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531212403858472967/549229273551077388/IMG_20190224_150034.jpg

2019-02-24 14:01:21 UTC

eww straight fries

2019-02-24 14:01:42 UTC

you talk like the shape influences the taste

2019-02-24 14:01:50 UTC

it does good sir it does

2019-02-24 14:01:59 UTC

specialy when you rape those straight litle sticks in oven

2019-02-24 14:02:21 UTC

they are good for deepfryer but you cant just get them right from oven sadly

2019-02-24 14:03:41 UTC

crinklecut ones are superior when made in oven tbh~

2019-02-24 14:04:54 UTC

looks p good porco

2019-02-24 14:05:49 UTC

@porco nevermind those are crinkle cut fries

2019-02-24 14:06:05 UTC

i just needed to open the picture in browser

2019-02-24 14:06:10 UTC

for it to become large enough

2019-02-24 14:06:13 UTC

... goddamit discord

2019-02-24 14:11:43 UTC

Electric or gas oven porco?

2019-02-24 14:11:49 UTC

electric

2019-02-24 14:12:02 UTC

sadly gas cooking is very unpopular in Switzerland

2019-02-24 14:12:39 UTC

then it's absolute patrician's meal

2019-02-24 14:13:14 UTC

Electricity will probably beat the cost of the food

2019-02-24 14:13:37 UTC

kek no power is cheap af here

2019-02-24 14:13:53 UTC

one of the last places in Europe where crypto mining is still viable

2019-02-24 14:14:02 UTC

fuck

2019-02-24 14:14:05 UTC

in switzerland? really?

2019-02-24 14:14:09 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2019-02-24 14:14:17 UTC

yes, electricity is dirt cheap here

2019-02-24 14:14:46 UTC

I have my computer running 24/7, I have a huge additional freezer is my basement, I have 3 homeservers taking 300 W / each running day and night

2019-02-24 14:14:55 UTC

I pay about 20 CHF / month for power

2019-02-24 14:14:57 UTC

how much per 1kwh

2019-02-24 14:15:24 UTC

!answer 20 chf to eur

2019-02-24 14:15:44 UTC

0.13 CHF / kwh

2019-02-24 14:16:15 UTC

so the oven needs 2 kwh for 20 minutes

2019-02-24 14:17:08 UTC

tfw paying for gas and electricity together so i cant be fucked to calculate shit

2019-02-24 14:17:22 UTC

that's 600 W so that's 0.08 CHF to heat the food

2019-02-24 14:17:46 UTC

@Tervy So we should pull our research and rely on accidents? Great concept

2019-02-24 14:18:07 UTC

where did i say that good sir

2019-02-24 14:18:57 UTC

When you said you're against patents and explained copying is a good thing. The problem here is still if the original innovator doesn't get something out of it, why bother at all?

2019-02-24 14:19:24 UTC

Then we're indeed just copying of each other and relying on accidents

2019-02-24 14:20:00 UTC

you really think that patents are only way for researchers to get paid ? wow

2019-02-24 14:20:37 UTC

Then tell me other options

2019-02-24 14:20:48 UTC

State fund all research?

2019-02-24 14:22:51 UTC

!answer 0.70pln to chf

2019-02-24 14:25:29 UTC

So yeah

2019-02-24 14:37:41 UTC

@Sdeck37 Profit sharing on the fruits of their labor instead of a set wage

2019-02-24 14:51:22 UTC

I mean, not to say that would ever fly in modern capitalist society . People tend to start making angry NPC noises if you insinuate that executives shouldn't be making 60+% of the wages in their companym when they make up 1% of the workforce

2019-02-24 14:51:29 UTC

source on those numbers: My ass

2019-02-24 14:59:24 UTC

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Profit sharing on the fruits of their labor instead of a set wage
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2019-02-24 14:59:35 UTC

I have actually no clue what you're saying here

2019-02-24 15:01:12 UTC

@Sdeck37 I will use small words for you

2019-02-24 15:02:06 UTC

>Make thing
>thing makes money
>For each thing sold, employees get a certain amount of money.

2019-02-24 15:02:30 UTC

Instead of
>Get paid same amount for product if it sells 1 or if it sells 10 million

2019-02-24 15:02:40 UTC

holy fuck that would kill me

2019-02-24 15:03:03 UTC

i think we're planning to sell like 100 devices total in 20 years

2019-02-24 15:03:19 UTC

Yeah, the concept of having a vested interest in the success of your employer makes a lot of slackers <:blobsweats:427568683003412505>

2019-02-24 15:04:08 UTC

Then you're off-topic
My point is there is no profit, if we're not at least pretend to honour some kind of patent system/rwarding innovators

2019-02-24 15:05:27 UTC

Nigga what did you just say

2019-02-24 15:10:24 UTC

I notice chinks tend to defend Huawei a lot

2019-02-24 15:10:54 UTC

>Huawei is attacked by the US government because they are threatened the most advanced company in the world

2019-02-24 15:11:04 UTC

>Huawei makes the best phones, you should get a Huawei

2019-02-24 15:36:15 UTC

Xiaomi is better than Huawei.

2019-02-24 15:36:16 UTC

fight me.

2019-02-24 15:36:32 UTC

im better than huawei

2019-02-24 15:36:42 UTC

Huawei was caught trying to steal shit from Apple. I mean, I don't like Apple

2019-02-24 15:59:57 UTC

No

2019-02-24 16:00:16 UTC

That would be Vivo and other no name brands

2019-02-24 16:00:27 UTC

Alcatel

2019-02-24 16:00:40 UTC

Anything with a mediatek in it

2019-02-24 16:03:34 UTC

@nitrokojote Huawei has spies in companies that steal info for them

2019-02-24 16:03:45 UTC

theyve been caught doing it multiple times

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