I have a question on the 'make America great again' slogan and a critique: How does Trump mean when he says MAGA when the history of the United States hasn't been the best. Veterans from both the world wars and Vietnam has been treated like shit when they returned and those coming back from prior his presidency has gotten minimal treatment and job opportunities. Minorities have a terrible history, having the 'war on drugs' being set-up to incarcerate them knowingly that it was an unfair, unethical and by today's standards illegal move that still has repercussions today. Our economy was terrible in the 1920s, the 60s and encouraged mobs and gangs with selling in the black/underground market. The housing crisis back in '08 caused many people thier homes and was also an economic downturn.

Should the slogan be "Make America Better" or something along those lines because despite as much as I respect the nation and our president I think the slogan is garnering a lot of criticism, and understandably so since American history has a lot of failures, sins and ''swamp'' that President Trump is working hard to clear up.

I have a question on the 'make America great again' slogan and a critique: How does Trump mean when he says MAGA when the history of the United States hasn't been the best. Veterans from both the world wars and Vietnam has been treated like shit when they returned and those coming back from prior his presidency has gotten minimal treatment and job opportunities. Minorities have a terrible history, having the 'war on drugs' being set-up to incarcerate them knowingly that it was an unfair, unethical and by today's standards illegal move that still has repercussions today. Our economy was terrible in the 1920s, the 60s and encouraged mobs and gangs with selling in the black/underground market. The housing crisis back in '08 caused many people thier homes and was also an economic downturn.

Should the slogan be "Make America Better" or something along those lines because despite as much as I respect the nation and our president I think the slogan is garnering a lot of criticism, and understandably so since American history has a lot of failures, sins and ''swamp'' that President Trump is working hard to clear up.

So why is this question being repeated b 5 different people?

Cos they came to troll/raid

This is why we have vetted channels

@Undakai

Hey fellow conservatives! I really like Trump but what about (insert leftist opinion)? Does that sit well with you? Love this bait

Oh look how I hate liberals and immigrants and minorities, please accept me as one of your own

i think theres a need for something much more broad than just a twitter/reddit clone - plenty of those already exist. a lot of ultra-nerdy/libertarian types always go way off the deep end, demanding open source, totally decentralized, zero censorship, extreme privacy measures, etc etc etc etc. but those things tend to lead to a small insular community of extreme weirdos. im aiming instead for a wide audience of people who are open minded, but not extremely political or whatever. centralized and (partially) curated - at least at the early stages. need to start thinking way, way broader than just spinning up yet another platform that caters exclusively to the TD crowd and focusing political stuff.

rather than a place for people to talk exclusively about politics, im aiming for it to be a place frequented by primarily right of center people, but where content is mostly NOT political.

i do like a lot of the principles behind aether - ephemeral posts could be a really good thing.

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think it was gab?

yeah interesting idea.

Dissenter add-on is the one your thinking of

Does anyone think think that the president will be impeached?And if so why would he be impeached?

Well, he's already being impeached lel

Removal? Not by a fucking large chance

I feel that democrats , like Pelosi,and Clinton/Soros are attempting Russia 2016 hoax 2.0. Also They're been pushing impeachment shit like this out of their asses even before he got fucking elected.

So, water is wet

However because they are always pushing this shit for a constant 3 years they really have been helping Trump out which they dont realize until november 8 2020

November 3, but yeah

Shit my bad

We knew this would happen, so just focus and getting out and voting, and getting and many people as you can to vote as well

Complacency and voter fraud are the only means to lose this election

We need to start dividing the left.we do this by making fake twitter accounts that appear to be moderate lefties that post shit like "ICE is essential to the US biden 2020" and then the hardcore commie leftist will react with "bernie 2020" then you start dividing the left.

No.

The left is already eating its own

they dont need help

Besides, that would make us just like them

We don't need to resort to shady methods

Thanks for that got angry started typing all that.

the left already divides itself like that

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Just go to any commie or socialist reddit and watch the comments

r/democrats tries to regulate comments because of all the shit-flinging

After all this I seriously hope that after geotus second term we don't go back to the same old shit

trumb

Just scanning thru this and to put it in a basic gesalt for everyone to understand..theres 2 possible scenarios that both could result in an absolute win or catastrophic failure

Trump at rallies always has these inner thoughts fighting itself determinizing whether to stick with what got him elected and staying away from policies that Americans hated from Obama/Joe Biden(MAGA) OR to keep these keys of success away from the hands of what could be either a fight against Socialist Sanders(KAG)

So considering either result:
**1st possibility** - is if Trump were to go against Sander running on the policies of the KAG slogan, it would make sense since 'America wont ever be a socialist country' and it speak volumes when looking at the stock market,401k, annual salary increases,tax cuts and the people love that
BUT
If Trump were to stick to his old guns and run MAGA on Sanders, it werent work so well since Trump would bring up the forgotten family and both would be anti-establistment types and so it would be a battle of who is the cleaner guy and Trump's record wouldnt fit him so well since Trump hasnt necessarily drained the swamp enough and Sanders has vocally and politically been anti-swamp especially since theyre also both anti-war and given Trumps record, again, it wouldnt fit him since trump has only shown restraint against the war lobbyists and not actually ending wars or troop removal while Bernie has shown action like War Powers Act and decreasing military budget

**2nd possibility:**
If Trump were to run KAG against Biden, it wouldnt help because Biden essentially has some of Trump policies in his pocket too like Biden's position on immigration and labor markets since Biden doesnt want illegals taking jobs either
BUT
If Trump were to keep MAGA then it makes sense since nobody wants another Obama like presidency and trump can stick to things like draining the swamp, no more wars, no shitty healthcare, tax cuts, BUILD THE WALL, and *AMERICANISM NOT GLOBALISM*

I think one thing you have to remember on top of that is Biden is a stooge and is being propped up by the media and the DNC

Fuck you I ain't reading all that shit

this is the serious discussion page, if you wanna jerk off, we got hotties for trump over there, god bless

I have many contacts around the US and around the world, many who are commies and many who are socialists, some who are left libertarians, and so on and Ive yet to have anyone tell me they support Biden

The few who support Biden are minimal compared to other democratic candidates

Heck just check r/democrats or the communist or socialist reddit pages, its all sanders and yang

Where is this support for Biden the media keeps pushing?

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exactly, theyre pushing Warren and Biden but given the polls its possible either 3 of them can go against trump and so there comes this fight again for Trump to choose MAGA or KAG

I'd say KAG given whats been going on, keep the current run going, but dont forget MAGA, no reason America cant become greater

Seems like both slogans are applicable depending on who is being advertised to

yeah, i dont mind either but my only concern is who goes against Trump and how strong can the message go clear for voters. Trump can run on KAG rhetoric but push MAGA actions and policies as well if he wins 2020. the wall hasnt been fully built since its expected to finish by 2022 and so at anytime if the democrat wins, Sanders Warren or Biden can cancel the wall thus making MAGA stronger than KAG

Given the polls from various sources, it doesnt look like anyone can

Even the RNC told everyone who could run to not run

promote Trump, stand back, let him win

while the DNC and third parties fight for scraps

Myself I consider a libertarian, have for well over a decade now

and even Im sitting here considering voting for Trump

Why not? There are no other candidates at this point

Even the libertarian party is split on this

Seems to me Trump winning this year is guaranteed

thats also a big factor on the odds of trump winning, its like all 3rd parties underestimated Trump thus causing divide within themselves since some have conservative values and some liberal, i would suggest for you to register as a republican this election because its bound to stay this way for a while

Tbh being libertarian and only considering voting for Trump is already pretty dumb

If y'all love liberty and defend it, voting red should be a must

I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016, because I agreed with him most

I mentioned before Trump supporters never once blamed me for their victory or thanked me or acted like assholes, yet Clinton supporters/Jill/Sanders they all blamed me for Trump victory, because we were within the margin of error in this state

On top of that, when we look at the deals being put through, the improvements in peoples lives, especially here in the rust belt, given the alternative candidates there is really only one option currently

@Islamic Straight I dont entirely agree, when it comes to being a libertarian like most views, there are things one must rationalize

The Republican party and libertarian party have many disagreements in how things are handled, and many libertarians end up going into the republican party to garner votes

Ive mentioned it before but I have supported Ron and Rand Paul since 2008

Yet both are listed as Republicans

Rationally speaking, voting red is the only way

Can't argue with that

At this point yeah, it seems to be that way

Otherwise it seems like nothing but justifying ones point or fighting upstream

Libertarians tend to lean more to the right since it wants NO government in peoples lives and Republicans would want just less govt but with a little oversight and order within the American people and so this is what unite Repubs and Libertarians but youd allow something like legal weed and gay rights as long it doesnt hurt you personally right but sooner youll be seeing a trans man smoking weed working at a McDonalds instead of what we would see in a conservative world and see a good catholic and orderly worker at a Five Guys or In N Out place

I am not a standard far right ancom libertarian

I understand the role of government

I see a place for it

last of those political tests I took I ended up around here

do you support legalizing certain drugs?

ahh

tbh I support legalizing all drugs with a means of oversight regulating them to make them safer for people to use, and if possible setting up something from our past like shamans or safe places for people to try them

Black markets help nobody, they harm millions of lives either directly or indirectly

People are going to do things if they want to do them, and we should have systems in place to allow people to do them safely

Ruining lives because someone has some mushrooms in a bag, or because someone tested positive for a plant is absurdity

i wouldnt support it but not because it has track records of black markets rising or one person dies from drugs and everyone is to blame kinda stuff

I just support regulation like raising age to smoke or drink but with a penalty like if searching for a job youd have to list that you smoke or drink since jobs would want a more clean person but they could still be eligible

I can understand that point, but from a personal liberty viewpoint Ive done plenty of drugs in the past, harmed no one, used responsibly and I see it as a benefit to people

Black markets exists because people feed them

Legalizing won't make it better

Just look at what's happening in the Netherlands

They became a narcostate

The weed black market still exists yes, have a friend who is working in it

But its minimalized and the decriminalization aspect allows for support programs that couldnt exist otherwise

Kids drink alcohol and smoke cigs anyway, they find ways to do it

but lifting stigmas and offering support is the key bit

People kill anyways, let's legalize murder

And your friend is a drug dealer

A criminal

he sure is

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So better care for the people you are friends with