Much better

lol

yes

sure

Very northern

place

It sounds

Found headphones. Woke up my wife.

@Bat'ko are you syndicalist or anarcho-communist?

Syndicalist

@Bat'ko worst of a kind ^__^

Heck you

@Hezbolshevik <:st:312054710221930508>

<:svt:312032528129327106>

<:st:312060486449364993>

market syndicalist.

Bat'ko is very good actor. Be careful

older

Bat'ko, play please as Ziziek.

Everybody is ok with this.

Helped Putin stay in power.

A lot.

@Hezbolshevik

@Deleted User

@Bat'ko

@Firefly I don't enjoy the thought of civilians being killed by kulaks

What do you call good commie?

Dead commie

@Firefly#9983 that is a nice a model

That Simon Chen one.

If not Crimea Putin would be ruined.

Lol, me too

@Hezbolshevik <:pio:312034352588652544>

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318334778082459653/318337393495113728/WNWjvFw.jpg

Is this an Asian or Slavic model ? @Firefly

I'm partly Ukrainian.

@Trestkie Looks slavic to me.

makes sense

my dick seems to like this

@Trestkie disgusting.

Bundt partied with bolsheviks

@Firefly Are you a Russian ?

@Trestkie Me? I'm anonymous.

k

@Trestkie he's ethnically a kulak

Hello, anarchy!

@Deleted User

Hello there <:seal:312037860570169345>

@Firefly

I've been an anarchist once.

Oh

@Firefly I didn't know that autism could be temporary

Anarchy is the serious thing. Not like SJW

Fuck SJW's...

Heil soros

Uphold white genocide!

***HEIL!***

@Deleted User yes. They spoil our people with propaganda.

SOROS PAYED ME AGAINST THE HUNGARIAN GOVERNMENT

@tovarish why wouldn't he?

@Tovarish Panzermayer get in voice kulak

That's more like it!

<:bour:313709044957315082>

Ooo

@Firefly no

Communist porn is not acceptable...

Stalin would not approve

@Hezbolshevik Stalin would approve of that though

@Deleted User I'm ok with it.

@Deleted User are you ok?

@Firefly am I allowed to send photos of dead kulaks?

@Hezbolshevik only if it is news or educational.

You can't post pictures of dead kulaks but you can post communist porn...

Such logic

Well we both deleted it

@Deleted User erotic is not porn.

Alllrighty

He's only posting lewd things now

@Firefly I know...

It's all good

Mij armija stranij mij armija naroda

Da :)

@Deleted User how is anarchist movement in the post-soviet countries going?

Goows!!!!!!!

hello

Since when was fascism capitalist

Since always

That's not true at all

Marxist definition of Fascism is radical capitalism.

Fascism inherently is either ambivalent or against it

>going off the marxist definition for something opposed to marxism

@Deleted User I'm Marxist. Which definition I should use?

Fascism is adherence to natural law to form a revolving state that sustains itself, that's really as best as I can describe it in few words

If that makes any sense

Nature to the fascist is the 'universal truth' and the fascist state is the 'organic state'
It revolves itself according to what is needed

"Stirner himself, however, has no truck with "higher beings." Indeed, with the aim of concerning himself purely with his own interests, he attacks all "higher beings," regarding them as a variety of what he calls "spooks," or ideas to which individuals sacrifice themselves and by which they are dominated. Among the "spooks" Stirner attacks are such notable aspects of capitalist life as private property, the division of labour, the state, religion, and society itself. We will discuss Stirner's critique of capitalism before moving onto his vision of an egoist society (and how it relates to social anarchism). "

Firefly wife is very sleepy by his side

So it *could* have a capitalist market system, but it's not inherently pro-capitalist

@Deleted User You give me an anti-Marxist perspective of it.

Fascism's revolution is based on perceived necessity and perceived natural order which really more opposes communism than Marxism

And by natural order I mean ignores things like equality

BUT it supports the idea of from each according to his ability

and in an actual fascist state to each according to his need would be upheld

@Deleted User that is why I shouldn't use my definition of Fascism?

Yes, because the definition you gave me implies fascism is based around capitalism, which is untrue

@Deleted User show me Fascism in anarchist society.

If it is not based in capitalism

Anarchism and fascism couldn't coincide because there is no order in anarchy

@Deleted User so it is not based in anarchy?

It cannot be

What about communism, can fascism be based in communism?

No, because communism requires unnatural equality. Socialism however can be used in a fascist state.

@Deleted User what is socialism?

The means of production are owned by society, or rather by the proles

@Deleted User that is not true

Define socialism

You like Marxist definition?

Go ahead

Socialism is a first stage of communism by Marxist definition.

That's a good reason to dislike the 'marxist definition's of these things

That is simplistic and gives no light to what exactly the policy of that economic system would be

I don't see how even the most pious communist could accept a mere
>IT IS THE OPPOSITE OF CAPITALISM
tier definition

At all

@Deleted User there is no need. Anything that leads to communism is socialism.

@Deleted User yes, but as an admin I do not engage in personal conversions. Plus my favorite wify is sleepy besides me.

true

Socialism can be different

There is no need to be specific.

@Deleted User Most communist in Russia do not believe they will live in communism.

The purpose is not based on what is immediate

The goal is to make classless society

In the end

Very end

Socialism is the path

To communism

Nothing else

You make a program

The Party makes

No, I'm pro-aristocracy

Marxism-Leninism

I think we can do it with or without aristocracy.

But I'm pro

Yes

Yes

Can be used

To gain more control for Party

USSR funded more fundamental science than the whole world

That is true

But USSR funded more

USSR had 1/4th of all scientist in the world

Merchant propaganda

Every merchant is to go to gulag

Because they seek profit for themselves

not society

It is bad

It is

to each according to his need = personal profit

Any profit is wrong

Because who are getting profit from?

You pretend as there is no underpaid workers

and only market

In the ideal communist place is also great

But reality is the underpaid workers

And profit of them

SO Fascism is capitalism?

You advocate for free market

In Fascism?

ANd say in the same time it is not related

You advocate for market

You have to observe the whole picture, expenses these industrialist shits put against what they make helps set the picture and helps to differentiate when there is an issue of exploitation

The whole picture is that the definition of Marxism is correct

Fascism is capitalism

But you advocate for it

You say that Fascism is not capitalism and advocate capitalism

and Fascism

You advocate the social structure within capitalism

Advocate means to recommend sorry I should only say defend in terms of that

Underpaid wage slaves

Profit motive is a merchant ideology.

And Englishmen

Most people on Earth don't have the same values

ETERNAL ANGLO

The market system is based of merchant and anglo values

That is not true

Human nature is not merchant

It is anglo nature

Certainly not a Russian value

Nor Chinese

Profit value

is not present

It is

Better value is generosity.

Gifting

Not taking

You are merchantized

@cornography (pfp is corny) get in here

o

There is like 20 servers

with leftist

where firefly go

nvm imm going to sleep zzz😴

@cornography (pfp is corny) Time to go.

sionara

im goint to record this to listen to it later. is that cool

Sure man

gr8

k thanks

@Varg Barely

@83 Hello

Varg is taling

He has a trouble with mic

Hello

Barely can hear you

Your mic levels are messed

Wait gonna see if I can do something in the settings

Well everyone is muted so

@83 unmute yourself. Everybody will join.

Ok

Same problem varg. You start with high levels and it drops right aways.