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2017-05-28 11:20:51 UTC

You can't post pictures of dead kulaks but you can post communist porn...

2017-05-28 11:20:54 UTC

Such logic

2017-05-28 11:21:10 UTC

Well we both deleted it

2017-05-28 11:21:14 UTC

@Deleted User erotic is not porn.

2017-05-28 11:21:18 UTC

Alllrighty

2017-05-28 11:21:20 UTC

He's only posting lewd things now

2017-05-28 11:21:32 UTC

@Firefly I know...

2017-05-28 11:21:38 UTC

It's all good

2017-05-28 11:21:49 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318334778082459653/318348133442519040/Elkin_B._-_Long_live_the_Red_Army_-_armed_wing_of_the_proletarian_revolution_1932..jpg

2017-05-28 11:22:19 UTC

Mij armija stranij mij armija naroda

2017-05-28 11:22:33 UTC

Da :)

2017-05-28 11:24:01 UTC

@Deleted User how is anarchist movement in the post-soviet countries going?

2017-05-28 11:24:19 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318334778082459653/318348760910659584/zBiFyd6pj7c.jpg

2017-05-28 11:28:09 UTC

Goows!!!!!!!

2017-05-29 07:38:56 UTC

hello

2017-05-29 07:39:15 UTC

Since when was fascism capitalist

2017-05-29 07:39:25 UTC

Since always

2017-05-29 07:39:50 UTC

That's not true at all

2017-05-29 07:39:59 UTC

Marxist definition of Fascism is radical capitalism.

2017-05-29 07:40:04 UTC

Fascism inherently is either ambivalent or against it

2017-05-29 07:40:52 UTC

>going off the marxist definition for something opposed to marxism

2017-05-29 07:41:12 UTC

@Deleted User I'm Marxist. Which definition I should use?

2017-05-29 07:41:31 UTC

Fascism is adherence to natural law to form a revolving state that sustains itself, that's really as best as I can describe it in few words

2017-05-29 07:41:39 UTC

If that makes any sense

2017-05-29 07:42:12 UTC

Nature to the fascist is the 'universal truth' and the fascist state is the 'organic state'
It revolves itself according to what is needed

2017-05-29 07:42:20 UTC

"Stirner himself, however, has no truck with "higher beings." Indeed, with the aim of concerning himself purely with his own interests, he attacks all "higher beings," regarding them as a variety of what he calls "spooks," or ideas to which individuals sacrifice themselves and by which they are dominated. Among the "spooks" Stirner attacks are such notable aspects of capitalist life as private property, the division of labour, the state, religion, and society itself. We will discuss Stirner's critique of capitalism before moving onto his vision of an egoist society (and how it relates to social anarchism). "

2017-05-29 07:42:28 UTC

Firefly wife is very sleepy by his side

2017-05-29 07:42:33 UTC

So it *could* have a capitalist market system, but it's not inherently pro-capitalist

2017-05-29 07:43:19 UTC

@Deleted User You give me an anti-Marxist perspective of it.

2017-05-29 07:44:39 UTC

Fascism's revolution is based on perceived necessity and perceived natural order which really more opposes communism than Marxism

2017-05-29 07:45:04 UTC

And by natural order I mean ignores things like equality

2017-05-29 07:45:32 UTC

BUT it supports the idea of from each according to his ability

2017-05-29 07:45:57 UTC

and in an actual fascist state to each according to his need would be upheld

2017-05-29 07:46:31 UTC

@Deleted User that is why I shouldn't use my definition of Fascism?

2017-05-29 07:47:00 UTC

Yes, because the definition you gave me implies fascism is based around capitalism, which is untrue

2017-05-29 07:47:36 UTC

@Deleted User show me Fascism in anarchist society.

2017-05-29 07:47:48 UTC

If it is not based in capitalism

2017-05-29 07:48:09 UTC

Anarchism and fascism couldn't coincide because there is no order in anarchy

2017-05-29 07:48:25 UTC

@Deleted User so it is not based in anarchy?

2017-05-29 07:48:31 UTC

It cannot be

2017-05-29 07:48:53 UTC

What about communism, can fascism be based in communism?

2017-05-29 07:49:48 UTC

No, because communism requires unnatural equality. Socialism however can be used in a fascist state.

2017-05-29 07:50:04 UTC

@Deleted User what is socialism?

2017-05-29 07:50:49 UTC

The means of production are owned by society, or rather by the proles

2017-05-29 07:51:01 UTC

@Deleted User that is not true

2017-05-29 07:51:07 UTC

Define socialism

2017-05-29 07:51:21 UTC

You like Marxist definition?

2017-05-29 07:51:28 UTC

Go ahead

2017-05-29 07:52:03 UTC

Socialism is a first stage of communism by Marxist definition.

2017-05-29 07:52:32 UTC

That's a good reason to dislike the 'marxist definition's of these things

2017-05-29 07:52:46 UTC

That is simplistic and gives no light to what exactly the policy of that economic system would be

2017-05-29 07:53:11 UTC

I don't see how even the most pious communist could accept a mere
>IT IS THE OPPOSITE OF CAPITALISM
tier definition

2017-05-29 07:53:12 UTC

At all

2017-05-29 07:53:18 UTC

@Deleted User there is no need. Anything that leads to communism is socialism.

2017-05-29 07:55:51 UTC

@Deleted User yes, but as an admin I do not engage in personal conversions. Plus my favorite wify is sleepy besides me.

2017-05-29 07:56:16 UTC

true

2017-05-29 07:56:34 UTC

Socialism can be different

2017-05-29 07:56:54 UTC

There is no need to be specific.

2017-05-29 07:57:35 UTC

@Deleted User Most communist in Russia do not believe they will live in communism.

2017-05-29 07:58:21 UTC

The purpose is not based on what is immediate

2017-05-29 07:58:41 UTC

The goal is to make classless society

2017-05-29 07:58:45 UTC

In the end

2017-05-29 07:58:48 UTC

Very end

2017-05-29 07:59:06 UTC

Socialism is the path

2017-05-29 07:59:15 UTC

To communism

2017-05-29 07:59:23 UTC

Nothing else

2017-05-29 08:00:07 UTC

You make a program

2017-05-29 08:00:11 UTC

The Party makes

2017-05-29 08:00:48 UTC

No, I'm pro-aristocracy

2017-05-29 08:01:06 UTC

Marxism-Leninism

2017-05-29 08:01:39 UTC

I think we can do it with or without aristocracy.

2017-05-29 08:01:44 UTC

But I'm pro

2017-05-29 08:02:05 UTC

Yes

2017-05-29 08:02:12 UTC

Yes

2017-05-29 08:02:26 UTC

Can be used

2017-05-29 08:02:42 UTC

To gain more control for Party

2017-05-29 08:03:27 UTC

USSR funded more fundamental science than the whole world

2017-05-29 08:03:52 UTC

That is true

2017-05-29 08:04:06 UTC

But USSR funded more

2017-05-29 08:04:28 UTC

USSR had 1/4th of all scientist in the world

2017-05-29 08:05:31 UTC

Merchant propaganda

2017-05-29 08:05:45 UTC

Every merchant is to go to gulag

2017-05-29 08:06:11 UTC

Because they seek profit for themselves

2017-05-29 08:06:17 UTC

not society

2017-05-29 08:06:25 UTC

It is bad

2017-05-29 08:06:33 UTC

It is

2017-05-29 08:06:42 UTC

to each according to his need = personal profit

2017-05-29 08:06:44 UTC

Any profit is wrong

2017-05-29 08:07:02 UTC

Because who are getting profit from?

2017-05-29 08:07:34 UTC

You pretend as there is no underpaid workers

2017-05-29 08:07:43 UTC

and only market

2017-05-29 08:08:06 UTC

In the ideal communist place is also great

2017-05-29 08:08:24 UTC

But reality is the underpaid workers

2017-05-29 08:08:32 UTC

And profit of them

2017-05-29 08:09:07 UTC

SO Fascism is capitalism?

2017-05-29 08:09:26 UTC

You advocate for free market

2017-05-29 08:09:35 UTC

In Fascism?

2017-05-29 08:09:50 UTC

ANd say in the same time it is not related

2017-05-29 08:10:12 UTC

You advocate for market

2017-05-29 08:10:30 UTC

You have to observe the whole picture, expenses these industrialist shits put against what they make helps set the picture and helps to differentiate when there is an issue of exploitation

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