I take your argument that “God crushed evil he would be absolving man of the responsibility for his own actions”

Why would God not crush evil before it reached that point? Before mankind was led astray and disobeyed God?

God created man with free will. The ability to respect God's judgement or reject it and fend for himself. This choice was represented by the tree of knowledge of good and evil. To allow man this choice is allowing him the choice between good and evil. It is impossible to love or respect God without the ability to act against him. Crushing the ability to do evil, and thus man's ability to choose, would also be crushing man's ability to act in a way that is in line with God's will, because such a thing would require the concsious decision to do so.

I apologize in advance if It was poorly worded, it's passed 1 am.

Not at all. You frame your points well though, I respect that

And as promised that's the last question I have

Goodnight, thanks for the chat

Same to you. Have a good one.

@Mros so I assume you believe communism is compatible with Christianity? what denom are you?

@Deleted User I suppose it's possible in theory, but I have yet to see one that hasn't accepted heresies or stop being a communist later.

I'm going to become a catholic

Christianity as a matter of principle as well is, I think, opposed to ideaologies that proclaim state atheism

And advocate mass killings

Agreeed

@Mros The Catholic Church actually denounced communism around the 80s iirc

I'm not surprised

There's the answer then

Having said that, I don't think the current pope is too concerned with the socialist public policies

You don't think communism is incompatible with say, the parable of the 3 servants?

In fact, I think he has a heart for the poor and disadvantaged

similiar to concerns for access to healthcare and other state services under democratic socialism models

The only way I could see it being possible is if the communist reject parts of their ideology to coincide with Christian teachings

And even then I'm doubtful

Actually, the parable is incompatible with the fundamentals of communism is what I am saying

not rejecting aspects but outright complete rejection

Ok, good thing I'm not a communist then

heh

so you're non-denom or simply not a ''believer'' yet?

Non denom

as in agnostic/athiest looking to convert?

okay can we fuck off with the religion shit for a couple of hours I just woke up to see you guys still going at it

I do not understand non-denoms I admit

I'm only one due to me being new to it

It feels like they're outright ignoring the Epistle

What's your denomination?

don't notice the symbol in my avatar?

Catholic then

well no, Orthodox, that should be the Byzantine Cross w/ Greek letters

ah

Yes, of course

w/ Cyrillic letters at the top but that's a non-religious thing

I thought that was familiar from history of byzantium podcast

cool man

Ok

Orthodox church, logically and from a secular pov is the one true faith with all other churches having split off, as in we're the original branch

being that Catholics, Apostolics, Oriental Orthodox etc all broke away at some point by rejecting an Eccumenial Council

That is a view point

That is cool and whatnot

maki>>>>nico

But in my books

No, it's the process used

wtf?

If you love Jesus and believe in the gospel

shut up kid

ur gay famicom

Back in what was it, the 2nd century? A heresy poppoed up that created the idea of having Eccumenial Councils

And ascribe to the Nicene creed

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I mean Eccumenial Councils being a reaction

which nicene creed?

The one that was decided in Nicene aha

The original one? the one where it was changed once?

The one the Catholics use?

the Nicene creed was created then changed by an Eccumenial Council

The changes weren't really too major mate

But then again I come from a reformed background

Actually any change can cause a schism

Such as the Russian Orthodox and the Old Believers

Catholics and Orthodox

hmm yeah

What is your point

You argue that the orthodox church as you see it, is the one true church due to apostolic succession

The one w/ the Old Believers was very ''insignificant'' but ti still caused a schism

It's the original branch

You know I think the schism between east and west was more to do the internal politics within the fading roman empire

Than anything else

Internal politics caused unneeded change theologically, yes

Especially Papal Primacy

Yeah

But at the end of the day

If someone has accept the gospel mate

They love Jesus

What if you accept it wrong?

And have received the holy spirit

They are still christian man

many immoral people love Jesus

all denoms claim to love Jesus but have vast differences

ok, but as a part of loving Jesus, they follow and obey his commands

you're arguing for sola fide and sola scriptura

And have received the gospel of savlation

What are His commands <:Thonk:291442234199375872>

To love god and to love others

your background is definitely showing extremely much

That is what the entirety of the commands were accordin to christ

and, I don't wanna be petty but capitalize His pronouns and names

Ok, I apologise

I'm reformed man

''to love God and to love others''
this is extremely extremely vague

what does it mean to love?

What are acts of love?