Message from @Mros

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2017-06-07 08:15:04 UTC  

Why would God not crush evil before it reached that point? Before mankind was led astray and disobeyed God?

2017-06-07 08:20:33 UTC  

God created man with free will. The ability to respect God's judgement or reject it and fend for himself. This choice was represented by the tree of knowledge of good and evil. To allow man this choice is allowing him the choice between good and evil. It is impossible to love or respect God without the ability to act against him. Crushing the ability to do evil, and thus man's ability to choose, would also be crushing man's ability to act in a way that is in line with God's will, because such a thing would require the concsious decision to do so.

2017-06-07 08:21:06 UTC  

I apologize in advance if It was poorly worded, it's passed 1 am.

2017-06-07 08:21:18 UTC  

Not at all. You frame your points well though, I respect that

2017-06-07 08:21:27 UTC  

And as promised that's the last question I have

2017-06-07 08:21:32 UTC  

Goodnight, thanks for the chat

2017-06-07 08:21:41 UTC  

Same to you. Have a good one.

2017-06-07 14:27:24 UTC  

@Mros so I assume you believe communism is compatible with Christianity? what denom are you?

2017-06-07 14:45:31 UTC  

@Deleted User I suppose it's possible in theory, but I have yet to see one that hasn't accepted heresies or stop being a communist later.

2017-06-07 14:46:23 UTC  

I'm going to become a catholic

2017-06-07 14:46:28 UTC  

Christianity as a matter of principle as well is, I think, opposed to ideaologies that proclaim state atheism

2017-06-07 14:46:39 UTC  

And advocate mass killings

2017-06-07 14:47:59 UTC  

Agreeed

2017-06-07 14:48:14 UTC  

@Mros The Catholic Church actually denounced communism around the 80s iirc

2017-06-07 14:48:28 UTC  

I'm not surprised

2017-06-07 14:48:35 UTC  

There's the answer then

2017-06-07 14:48:55 UTC  

Having said that, I don't think the current pope is too concerned with the socialist public policies

2017-06-07 14:49:15 UTC  

You don't think communism is incompatible with say, the parable of the 3 servants?

2017-06-07 14:49:16 UTC  

In fact, I think he has a heart for the poor and disadvantaged

2017-06-07 14:49:51 UTC  

similiar to concerns for access to healthcare and other state services under democratic socialism models

2017-06-07 14:49:57 UTC  

The only way I could see it being possible is if the communist reject parts of their ideology to coincide with Christian teachings

2017-06-07 14:50:02 UTC  

And even then I'm doubtful

2017-06-07 14:50:25 UTC  

Actually, the parable is incompatible with the fundamentals of communism is what I am saying

2017-06-07 14:50:39 UTC  

not rejecting aspects but outright complete rejection

2017-06-07 14:50:50 UTC  

Ok, good thing I'm not a communist then

2017-06-07 14:50:57 UTC  

heh

2017-06-07 14:51:14 UTC  

so you're non-denom or simply not a ''believer'' yet?

2017-06-07 14:51:21 UTC  

Non denom

2017-06-07 14:51:23 UTC  

as in agnostic/athiest looking to convert?

2017-06-07 14:51:30 UTC  

okay can we fuck off with the religion shit for a couple of hours I just woke up to see you guys still going at it

2017-06-07 14:51:34 UTC  

I do not understand non-denoms I admit

2017-06-07 14:51:49 UTC  

I'm only one due to me being new to it

2017-06-07 14:51:56 UTC  

It feels like they're outright ignoring the Epistle

2017-06-07 14:52:15 UTC  

What's your denomination?

2017-06-07 14:52:35 UTC  

don't notice the symbol in my avatar?

2017-06-07 14:52:47 UTC  

Catholic then

2017-06-07 14:53:05 UTC  

well no, Orthodox, that should be the Byzantine Cross w/ Greek letters

2017-06-07 14:53:10 UTC  

ah

2017-06-07 14:53:12 UTC  

Yes, of course

2017-06-07 14:53:22 UTC  

w/ Cyrillic letters at the top but that's a non-religious thing

2017-06-07 14:53:32 UTC  

I thought that was familiar from history of byzantium podcast