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2017-12-07 02:52:36 UTC

Even if we disagree on a variety of topics.

2017-12-07 02:52:39 UTC

Again you probably have

2017-12-07 02:52:49 UTC

But you donโ€™t seem like intellectual

2017-12-07 02:53:16 UTC

I never actually claimed to be an intellectual, but I am very well-read.

2017-12-07 02:53:36 UTC

Um yes you did

2017-12-07 02:53:49 UTC

And you donโ€™t sound well read but do your thing man

2017-12-07 02:54:02 UTC

Enjoy the capitalism my dood

2017-12-07 02:56:08 UTC

I was joking and said I would become a conservative intellectual like a lot of Marxists have, but I never claimed that I was an intellectual. I've also had very engaging debates and in-depth discussions rife with source material and substantiated claims. I've proven my knowledge on a wide array of ideological schools of thought ranging from Austrolibertarianism to Marxism. Care to project some more, Mr. Butthurt Johnson?

2017-12-07 02:56:32 UTC
2017-12-07 02:58:25 UTC

Lmao

2017-12-07 02:58:38 UTC

Well you obviously are a vry vry smrt dood even if you donโ€™t like stats

2017-12-07 02:59:22 UTC

I do, and I think you do as well.. just not any that pose a threat to your confirmation bias.

2017-12-07 03:00:14 UTC

Iโ€™ll have you know I listen to Alex Jones

2017-12-07 03:00:20 UTC

Heโ€™s very far left

2017-12-07 03:00:35 UTC

Rofl

2017-12-07 03:00:44 UTC

Yes, very..

2017-12-07 05:25:42 UTC

White power! Lol

2017-12-07 05:25:43 UTC

Jk

2017-12-07 05:26:00 UTC

Not a supremacist just a conservetarian

2017-12-07 05:26:54 UTC

@ap3x_pr3dit0r well that's your first mistake. Why show yourself as less radical? That is inauthentic and you suddenly have the obligation to coat your views with the language of equality

2017-12-07 06:09:38 UTC

How about the droid attack on the wookies

2017-12-07 06:15:03 UTC

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2017-12-07 06:15:07 UTC

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2017-12-07 06:42:27 UTC

Ok at work sick as fuck

2017-12-07 06:44:33 UTC

@Deleted User you still on dude?

2017-12-07 08:46:45 UTC

What kind of stuff do we do around here?

2017-12-07 09:13:55 UTC

do you have icepicks?

2017-12-07 09:14:13 UTC

not gonna join

2017-12-07 09:14:17 UTC

too dangerous

2017-12-07 09:26:42 UTC

@Gary we just chat about leftist politics really

2017-12-07 09:29:10 UTC

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2017-12-07 09:30:51 UTC

I don't get this 56% meme but also the idea of racial Purity is total nonsense

2017-12-07 09:33:58 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2017-12-07 09:34:36 UTC

I like your hotline Miami avatar

2017-12-07 09:36:28 UTC

Thank you, everday I work to emulate my idol Jake.

2017-12-07 09:38:29 UTC

What are your political affiliations? Are you a leftist or someone from the new right? I am open to everyone's opinion really I am not one of those spergs who can't handle dissenting views

2017-12-07 09:39:30 UTC

I am a fascist <:bour:313709044957315082>

2017-12-07 09:40:24 UTC

Why do you I indentify with that and what led you to that position if you don't mind me asking?

2017-12-07 09:42:33 UTC

I identify with it due to my political beliefs aligning the most with fascism. And I was led to it by learning about third positionism on the internet and realizing why my country was being destroyed.

2017-12-07 09:43:10 UTC

I also tend to think fascism is rather I'll defined in western society and often used more as an insult rather than a political identity to most, so could you maybe explain your beliefs a bit?

2017-12-07 09:43:24 UTC

*ill

2017-12-07 09:43:51 UTC

Well economic wise I believe in guild corporatism.

2017-12-07 09:43:58 UTC

I am pretty uninformed about third positionism

2017-12-07 09:44:48 UTC

And social policy wise I think we should have a one party state with a defined hegemony.

2017-12-07 09:44:56 UTC

What is that about? Guild corporatism

2017-12-07 09:45:19 UTC

Racial hegemony or something else?

2017-12-07 09:45:43 UTC

Political hegmony

2017-12-07 09:45:58 UTC

Which would factor into economics and society

2017-12-07 09:46:31 UTC

So one state ruled by a single part how does it differ from leftists who advocate a single party system?

2017-12-07 09:47:47 UTC

Well it would be nationalized industry and the different facets of production, service etc would be formed into guilds.

2017-12-07 09:47:59 UTC

With no capitalism or money

2017-12-07 09:49:08 UTC

How do the guilds operate? I know a lot of leftist that Advocate nationalization of Industry but I assume it is different from a right perspective.

2017-12-07 09:49:37 UTC

I also knew a lot of leftists who are against capitalism and markets with currency

2017-12-07 09:49:57 UTC

It would be a meritocracy with the party overseeing it.

2017-12-07 09:50:22 UTC

Well corporatism is third party so its neither right nor left.

2017-12-07 09:50:48 UTC

So is it a command economy? Also how do guilds differ from unions?

2017-12-07 09:51:13 UTC

I'm not well educated on the subject but I assume most fascists are considered part of the right

2017-12-07 09:51:22 UTC

Guilds are controlled by the goverment but I guess they would be fairly similar to unions.

2017-12-07 09:51:32 UTC

Fascism is third position

2017-12-07 09:51:44 UTC

Its a rejection of right and left wing

2017-12-07 09:51:51 UTC

But most people say its right

2017-12-07 09:52:01 UTC

Why do you think people say that?

2017-12-07 09:52:46 UTC

Because nazism is a form of fascist ideology. And people like to conflate nazism with the right

2017-12-07 09:53:06 UTC

How does third position relate to Nazism?

2017-12-07 09:53:21 UTC

Like what type of parallels do they have?

2017-12-07 09:53:54 UTC

Nationalized economy for one. And a one party system

2017-12-07 09:54:27 UTC

Nazism is like fascism but with occult germanism and ethnic hate thrown in.

2017-12-07 09:56:09 UTC

Why do you think guilds are better than unions? Is the main difference between guilds in Union stat within guilds the people who run them are appointed by the state and in unions it is officials appointed by fellow workers?

2017-12-07 09:56:26 UTC

Yes.

2017-12-07 09:56:38 UTC

Unions would try to gain more and more power

2017-12-07 09:56:43 UTC

And would become mini states

2017-12-07 09:56:47 UTC

Goverment needs to oversee it

2017-12-07 09:58:33 UTC

I personally don't understand the dangers of unions in a control economy, unions just allowed Democratic representation of workers but are not really needed if workers democratically decide how the business is run without other owners

2017-12-07 09:58:50 UTC

The workers will over time try to become the strongest union

2017-12-07 09:59:13 UTC

And try to use political means to get power

2017-12-07 09:59:21 UTC

It would just become mini states

2017-12-07 09:59:26 UTC

Goverment needs to oversee them

2017-12-07 10:00:11 UTC

If the state is dictating what is produced, and the workers dictate how it's produced because they democratically control production what is the problem?

2017-12-07 10:01:15 UTC

Unions are mainly used to mediate between the owners and the workers when you have production controlled by workers democratically you don't need unions

2017-12-07 10:02:17 UTC

Brb need to clock out for lunch

2017-12-07 10:10:34 UTC

Okay I'm back now

2017-12-07 11:32:11 UTC

Are you fags talking about syndicalism now?

2017-12-07 11:37:02 UTC

I was just trying to understand the perspective of this self professed fascist

2017-12-07 11:39:04 UTC

@quiscalus He has no idea what he is talking about.

2017-12-07 11:39:39 UTC

I'm pretty uneducated on the subject myself

2017-12-07 11:40:11 UTC

I'm not a particularly well versed individual in political ideology

2017-12-07 11:40:34 UTC

@Deleted User how do you personally self-identify ideologically?

2017-12-07 11:42:51 UTC

Both you and lemon seem to be pretty well-versed within political theory so I feel like I have a lot to learn from both of you

2017-12-07 11:48:22 UTC

Fascism is not a political ideology.

2017-12-07 11:48:36 UTC

It is a worldview.

2017-12-07 11:49:11 UTC

I don't know much about fascism I've mainly heard it as ad hominem attack so I'm not really sure what it's composed of

2017-12-07 11:49:30 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/388295955788595201/IMG_20171207_151905_735.jpg

2017-12-07 11:49:30 UTC

What's the difference between a political ideology and a worldview?

2017-12-07 11:50:29 UTC

Fascism is not just an arifical idea made by man, for it is he only ideology that adheres to natural law and god.

2017-12-07 11:51:13 UTC

Thatโ€™s clerical fascism

2017-12-07 11:51:52 UTC

I'm interested to hear both of your guy's perspective on this

2017-12-07 11:54:07 UTC

@Deleted User What is the truth then?

2017-12-07 11:54:39 UTC

Thatโ€™s a hard question

2017-12-07 11:55:09 UTC

Personally, truth is what I believe to be factual and accurate.

2017-12-07 11:55:51 UTC

I think he might be talking about the nature of fascism or your perspective on it, then again I could be wrong

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