Message from @Deleted User

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2017-12-07 09:49:08 UTC  

How do the guilds operate? I know a lot of leftist that Advocate nationalization of Industry but I assume it is different from a right perspective.

2017-12-07 09:49:37 UTC  

I also knew a lot of leftists who are against capitalism and markets with currency

2017-12-07 09:49:57 UTC  

It would be a meritocracy with the party overseeing it.

2017-12-07 09:50:22 UTC  

Well corporatism is third party so its neither right nor left.

2017-12-07 09:50:48 UTC  

So is it a command economy? Also how do guilds differ from unions?

2017-12-07 09:51:13 UTC  

I'm not well educated on the subject but I assume most fascists are considered part of the right

2017-12-07 09:51:22 UTC  

Guilds are controlled by the goverment but I guess they would be fairly similar to unions.

2017-12-07 09:51:32 UTC  

Fascism is third position

2017-12-07 09:51:44 UTC  

Its a rejection of right and left wing

2017-12-07 09:51:51 UTC  

But most people say its right

2017-12-07 09:52:01 UTC  

Why do you think people say that?

2017-12-07 09:52:46 UTC  

Because nazism is a form of fascist ideology. And people like to conflate nazism with the right

2017-12-07 09:53:06 UTC  

How does third position relate to Nazism?

2017-12-07 09:53:21 UTC  

Like what type of parallels do they have?

2017-12-07 09:53:54 UTC  

Nationalized economy for one. And a one party system

2017-12-07 09:54:27 UTC  

Nazism is like fascism but with occult germanism and ethnic hate thrown in.

2017-12-07 09:56:09 UTC  

Why do you think guilds are better than unions? Is the main difference between guilds in Union stat within guilds the people who run them are appointed by the state and in unions it is officials appointed by fellow workers?

2017-12-07 09:56:26 UTC  

Yes.

2017-12-07 09:56:38 UTC  

Unions would try to gain more and more power

2017-12-07 09:56:43 UTC  

And would become mini states

2017-12-07 09:56:47 UTC  

Goverment needs to oversee it

2017-12-07 09:58:33 UTC  

I personally don't understand the dangers of unions in a control economy, unions just allowed Democratic representation of workers but are not really needed if workers democratically decide how the business is run without other owners

2017-12-07 09:58:50 UTC  

The workers will over time try to become the strongest union

2017-12-07 09:59:13 UTC  

And try to use political means to get power

2017-12-07 09:59:21 UTC  

It would just become mini states

2017-12-07 09:59:26 UTC  

Goverment needs to oversee them

2017-12-07 10:00:11 UTC  

If the state is dictating what is produced, and the workers dictate how it's produced because they democratically control production what is the problem?

2017-12-07 10:01:15 UTC  

Unions are mainly used to mediate between the owners and the workers when you have production controlled by workers democratically you don't need unions

2017-12-07 10:02:17 UTC  

Brb need to clock out for lunch

2017-12-07 10:10:34 UTC  

Okay I'm back now

2017-12-07 11:32:11 UTC  

Are you fags talking about syndicalism now?

2017-12-07 11:37:02 UTC  

I was just trying to understand the perspective of this self professed fascist

2017-12-07 11:39:04 UTC  

@quiscalus He has no idea what he is talking about.

2017-12-07 11:39:39 UTC  

I'm pretty uneducated on the subject myself

2017-12-07 11:40:11 UTC  

I'm not a particularly well versed individual in political ideology

2017-12-07 11:40:34 UTC  

@Deleted User how do you personally self-identify ideologically?

2017-12-07 11:42:51 UTC  

Both you and lemon seem to be pretty well-versed within political theory so I feel like I have a lot to learn from both of you

2017-12-07 11:48:22 UTC  

Fascism is not a political ideology.

2017-12-07 11:48:36 UTC  

It is a worldview.

2017-12-07 11:49:11 UTC  

I don't know much about fascism I've mainly heard it as ad hominem attack so I'm not really sure what it's composed of

2017-12-07 11:49:30 UTC  

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